On Wednesday 22 January 2014 15:13:02 Klaus Kaempf wrote:
* Sascha Peilicke <speilicke@suse.com> [Jan 22. 2014 14:19]:
Mucho agreed. I strongly vote for keeping parallel-installability. For several products (like Cloud) this is a must-have.
Hmm, I somewhat struggle with that. Why's it a 'must-have' ?
So Cloud-3 currently is still based on 1.8 and rails-2.3. We very recently got more manpower and I expect this to change soon. But at least ATM, we're not 2.1 ready.
And it's already present in openSUSE (and thus SLE12).
Well, this proposal is about removing this parallel-installability for SLE12.
2. Ruby will be part of inst-sys (for YaST)
Another good reason why you want parallel installs. ATM ruby-2.1 is fresh like cheese. But this version on SLE_X. Let 6 years pass and take one of our Ruby- based products. It will likely use ruby-42 by then. You can't drop ruby21 because of yast but you need ruby42 because of $PRODUCT...
I'm pretty sure we will be able to adapt yast to ruby-4.2. So this argument does not hold for me.
That is not my point, the question is if $SUSE_PRODUCT_X will be similarly capable to adapt. Let's do it the other way around, yast moved to ruby-4.2 but cloud-9 wants ruby-2.1. Of course you could ask "dear cloud guys", please fix this. But this would probably only happen for cloud-10. And our SLE_12 using customer may or may not want to upgrade to it.
5. ruby-macros ?
This would be a new name for ruby-common, a package only used for building ruby GEM packages. Actually, I'm not happy about the name. It should reflect the package usage. ruby-devel-build or ruby-build-macros could be alternatives.
Dunno if it's worth discussing package names but it's established practice to name RPM macro packages for software foo $FOO as $FOO-macros or $FOO-rpm- macros. Maybe the later is more obvious.
Yes, ruby-rpm-macros seems like a good name.
Klaus
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