[opensuse-releaseteam] Re: Packages you maintain are present in openSUSE:Leap:15.1
Am March 15, 2019 2:07:11 PM UTC schrieb Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de>:
This is a friendly reminder about your packages in openSUSE:Leap:15.1.
Please verify that the included packages are working as intended and have versions appropriate for a stable release. Changes may be submitted until April 15th [at the latest].
Keep in mind that some packages may be shared with SUSE Linux Enterprise. Concerns with those should be raised via Bugzilla.
Please contact opensuse-releaseteam@opensuse.org if your package needs special attention by the release team.
Thanks for the information. I already started going through "my" packages (see my other answer below) and trying to keep them up to date or fix them.
According to the information in OBS ("osc maintainer") you are in charge of the following packages:
And here the problem starts: I have to admit that I'm unable to maintain >900 packages. Especially, if I never heart from some of those packages before or am surprised that they ended up in Factory and other distributions while I know I don't wanted them to be there (means: someone else submitted them). Please advice how we should proceed here? I guess that sending delete requests for all the packages I don't want to maintain might not be a realistic option, while it is the easiest solution for me - and if I don't hear back from you, I will happily do this. Please note: I know that at least Markus Rückert, aka Darix, has a similar problem. He has over 200 packages assigned - a lot of them submitted to Factory without his knowledge or approval. Regards, Lars
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Hi Lars, On Thu, 2019-03-21 at 20:12 +0000, Lars Vogdt wrote:
Am March 15, 2019 2:07:11 PM UTC schrieb Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de>:
This is a friendly reminder about your packages in openSUSE:Leap:15.1.
Please verify that the included packages are working as intended and have versions appropriate for a stable release. Changes may be submitted until April 15th [at the latest].
Keep in mind that some packages may be shared with SUSE Linux Enterprise. Concerns with those should be raised via Bugzilla.
Please contact opensuse-releaseteam@opensuse.org if your package needs special attention by the release team.
Thanks for the information. I already started going through "my" packages (see my other answer below) and trying to keep them up to date or fix them.
According to the information in OBS ("osc maintainer") you are in charge of the following packages:
And here the problem starts: I have to admit that I'm unable to maintain >900 packages. Especially, if I never heart from some of those packages before or am surprised that they ended up in Factory and other distributions while I know I don't wanted them to be there (means: someone else submitted them).
900 packages? I sure hope you are not set as explicit maintainer of all those packages - but rather 'just' inherit the maintainer role for being project maintainer (depending on the project, this can sum up quickly).
Please advice how we should proceed here?
Depending on the nature where from your maintainer flag comes from, I'd suggest you to certainly try to lower the count by: * Remove yourself as project maintainer in areas where you are not active. Before doing so, make sure to add yourself as maintainer on any package you actually care for in the devel project. This will likely already give you a bug drop in the number of packages assigned to you. * FOr packages you are already explicitly set as maintainer but which you do not wish to maintain, ther emight be the chance of finding somebody else. Maybe you're ven fortunate enough and a 2nd maintainer is already assigned to the package? In this case, you could again remove yourself. Preferably with a notice to the other maintainer(s), informing them of your decision. This should get your number lower - and hopefully reach a point where the packages assigned to you as maintainer are actually 'your packages'. It is important for the release team as well as the maintenance teams to have information that makes sense. The goal is not to 'just have as many maintainers as possible' assigned, but actually having people that want to take care of their packages - and this obviolusly requires a low enough count in order to be ABLE to take care of them.
I guess that sending delete requests for all the packages I don't want to maintain might not be a realistic option, while it is the easiest solution for me - and if I don't hear back from you, I will happily do this.
Please note: I know that at least Markus Rückert, aka Darix, has a similar problem. He has over 200 packages assigned - a lot of them submitted to Factory without his knowledge or approval.
I have a bit a hard time believeing this: any new package submitted to openSUSE:Factory that is submitted by a non-maintainer (i.e. not package and not project maintainer) gets an approval request from said maintainers. If we have project maintainers accepting reviews on behalf of package maintainers, despite the latter one objecting it, we certainly have a large issue to dive in to. The goal of Tumbleweed is not having the largest repo possible - but having an as much as complete as possible, while being able to maintain it. Hope that helps clear things up a bit, Dominique
On 22/03/2019 21:57, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
Hi Lars,
On Thu, 2019-03-21 at 20:12 +0000, Lars Vogdt wrote:
Am March 15, 2019 2:07:11 PM UTC schrieb Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de>:
This is a friendly reminder about your packages in openSUSE:Leap:15.1.
Please verify that the included packages are working as intended and have versions appropriate for a stable release. Changes may be submitted until April 15th [at the latest].
Keep in mind that some packages may be shared with SUSE Linux Enterprise. Concerns with those should be raised via Bugzilla.
Please contact opensuse-releaseteam@opensuse.org if your package needs special attention by the release team.
Thanks for the information. I already started going through "my" packages (see my other answer below) and trying to keep them up to date or fix them.
According to the information in OBS ("osc maintainer") you are in charge of the following packages:
And here the problem starts: I have to admit that I'm unable to maintain >900 packages. Especially, if I never heart from some of those packages before or am surprised that they ended up in Factory and other distributions while I know I don't wanted them to be there (means: someone else submitted them).
900 packages? I sure hope you are not set as explicit maintainer of all those packages - but rather 'just' inherit the maintainer role for being project maintainer (depending on the project, this can sum up quickly).
Please advice how we should proceed here?
Depending on the nature where from your maintainer flag comes from, I'd suggest you to certainly try to lower the count by: * Remove yourself as project maintainer in areas where you are not active. Before doing so, make sure to add yourself as maintainer on any package you actually care for in the devel project. This will likely already give you a bug drop in the number of packages assigned to you.
* FOr packages you are already explicitly set as maintainer but which you do not wish to maintain, ther emight be the chance of finding somebody else. Maybe you're ven fortunate enough and a 2nd maintainer is already assigned to the package? In this case, you could again remove yourself. Preferably with a notice to the other maintainer(s), informing them of your decision.
This should get your number lower - and hopefully reach a point where the packages assigned to you as maintainer are actually 'your packages'. It is important for the release team as well as the maintenance teams to have information that makes sense. The goal is not to 'just have as many maintainers as possible' assigned, but actually having people that want to take care of their packages - and this obviolusly requires a low enough count in order to be ABLE to take care of them.
Remembering that if there are any packages that you are the maintainer for in SLE-15 you need to stay set as the bugowner and maintainer in obs. Although i'm not sure if this email includes those packages. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-releaseteam+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-releaseteam+owner@opensuse.org
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