New subject: [opensuse-python] Re: Please do not abuse your approval rights on d:l:p [Was: Re: Python 2 EOL]

10 Jan 2020

      Happy New Year everybody. Unfortunately, with the upcoming death 
of Python 2 packages in Factory, we have got into rather 
unpleasant situation:

On 2019-11-21, 21:46 GMT, Todd Rme wrote:
...
Python 2 EOL is happening in a little under a month and a half.
However, I am unclear what our plans are.  Is there any specific set
of actions we are going to take in response to this?  Is there a
timeline?
Hi, Todd,

I understand that the communication about this was not optimal 
(there were some problems with suse.com SMTP server not sending 
to this list), but still I insist that changes of this magnitude 
should be properly communicated beforehand with me, Steve, or 
Tomáš. Please, also follow the current discussion on 
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2020-01/msg00095.html 
this.

Yesterday (or starting a day before yesterday) you have 
submitted and approved himself over hundred of submit requests 
to various Python-related packages. You did so without 
consulting with anybody and we now have to recover OBS from this 
avalanche.

When planning such massive change as Python 2 EOL there are more 
considerations than what is just obvious to you from your side. 
See for example your request 
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/762506 , which we need 
to reapply as https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/762857 
instead.

Specifically, do not add more skip_python2 definitions, we will 
do it on the project/distro level later, no need to do it for 
each package individually.

Right now, the focus should stay on removing the leaf packages 
(not required by anything else), and we can continue later to 
more core ones.

However, this is not the first time we have problems to 
communicate with you. I completely appreciate huge amount of 
work you do for openSUSE, but these situations when we need to 
recover the distro from your mass submissions (self-approved by 
you) make me believe that if something does not change, we will 
need to let you just file request and we will have to check them 
ourselves before their approval. Please, do communicate such 
massive changes here, on IRC, or on Trello beforehand.

Best and thank you again for all you do for openSUSE,

Matěj
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[opensuse-python] Please do not abuse your approval rights on d:l:p [Was: Re: Python 2 EOL]

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