[opensuse-project] work for the future: why do you still use Windows
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I sent this post to the factory list at first, because I guessed that in this very list if somebody still uses windows sometime it's really because it's impossible to prevent this :-). Of course I hav few answers (but proposal to go to bugzilla, which is not the goal here). Whole thread is here (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2011-03/msg00064.html) On the project list, may be there are some more people to have Windows applications necessary, given you guys are less development oriented. I completed this post with the other answers. I got on short, it's a try to get some planning... Now that 11.4 is done and nearly out, we can think of the future. in 2011, most of us do not use anymore Windows or nearly. Still when we advertise openSUSE we need to be cautious. switching completely to openSUSE is nearly impossible, because there are still some locks. We should try to identify them and make the necessary effort to solve them. The installation problem is the most well known and we already work each day to solve it and make default install a snap on nearly any computer. The use of installable live cd/dvd solves most of these problems and anyway we can't do better than what we already do on this respect. So give testimonies here, and fill openfate entries to any lock you indentify here are three of mine: * have a decent linear video editor: https://features.opensuse.org/311439 * fully read slideshows: https://features.opensuse.org/311440 * I would add: make USB hardware more linux friendly, but this is more a kernel problem. I anyway open a feature for that, but I don't know exactly how we can make it successfull https://features.opensuse.org/311441 this very part led to a discussion of what is the kernel part and what is not. Most probably, the kernel works pretty well with usb at it's level, but it's at the application level that some hardware fails. There is a specific need for GPS map update. We can act on this subject by several ways: activating a more strong lobying to the hardware vendors (We could see that Garmin uses GPL software and linux internally, but only have windows applications), giving a push to opensync and specially for a kde4 kitchensync. same for cell phones. We could also promote a YaST module to guide the user when connecting weird usb gadgets * one user asked for an open notes gateway * how to run windows games? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgxog7_clip-l-ombre-et-la-lumiere-3-bad-pig... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgv_ZFtV14 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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As a blender user for a 3D animation company I agree that 'our' biggest problem with Linux (we use Gentoo day to day) is the lack of decent video-editing software on linux. My biggest problem is that i am a gamer, so regardless of all the many things that opensuse does better i still spend the majority of my time booted into Windows 7 64bit. On 03/09/11 08:39, jdd wrote:
I sent this post to the factory list at first, because I guessed that in this very list if somebody still uses windows sometime it's really because it's impossible to prevent this :-). Of course I hav few answers (but proposal to go to bugzilla, which is not the goal here). Whole thread is here (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2011-03/msg00064.html)
On the project list, may be there are some more people to have Windows applications necessary, given you guys are less development oriented. I completed this post with the other answers. I got
on short, it's a try to get some planning...
Now that 11.4 is done and nearly out, we can think of the future.
in 2011, most of us do not use anymore Windows or nearly. Still when we advertise openSUSE we need to be cautious. switching completely to openSUSE is nearly impossible, because there are still some locks.
We should try to identify them and make the necessary effort to solve them.
The installation problem is the most well known and we already work each day to solve it and make default install a snap on nearly any computer. The use of installable live cd/dvd solves most of these problems and anyway we can't do better than what we already do on this respect.
So give testimonies here, and fill openfate entries to any lock you indentify
here are three of mine:
* have a decent linear video editor: https://features.opensuse.org/311439
* fully read slideshows: https://features.opensuse.org/311440
* I would add: make USB hardware more linux friendly, but this is more a kernel problem. I anyway open a feature for that, but I don't know exactly how we can make it successfull https://features.opensuse.org/311441
this very part led to a discussion of what is the kernel part and what is not. Most probably, the kernel works pretty well with usb at it's level, but it's at the application level that some hardware fails. There is a specific need for GPS map update.
We can act on this subject by several ways: activating a more strong lobying to the hardware vendors (We could see that Garmin uses GPL software and linux internally, but only have windows applications), giving a push to opensync and specially for a kde4 kitchensync. same for cell phones.
We could also promote a YaST module to guide the user when connecting weird usb gadgets
* one user asked for an open notes gateway
* how to run windows games?
jdd
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Le 09/03/2011 10:19, Matt Gray a écrit :
My biggest problem is that i am a gamer, so regardless of all the many things that opensuse does better i still spend the majority of my time booted into Windows 7 64bit.
One of my relative is Laurent, very involved in second world for France. He said he uses Windows for the game and Linux in VirtualBox for the rest :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgxog7_clip-l-ombre-et-la-lumiere-3-bad-pig... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgv_ZFtV14 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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That is what I am tossing up at the moment, as I have a fast hex-core machine with a 128GB SSD, so I either repartion a space for an opensuse 11.4 install and probably never use it, or find some way to virtualise it without clogging up my SSD's limited space............. That might be the better solution as I am more likely to use opensuse on my desktop in this scenario. Cheers. On 03/09/11 09:34, jdd wrote:
Le 09/03/2011 10:19, Matt Gray a écrit :
My biggest problem is that i am a gamer, so regardless of all the many things that opensuse does better i still spend the majority of my time booted into Windows 7 64bit. One of my relative is Laurent, very involved in second world for France. He said he uses Windows for the game and Linux in VirtualBox for the rest :-)
jdd
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Le 09/03/2011 10:37, Matt Gray a écrit :
That is what I am tossing up at the moment, as I have a fast hex-core machine with a 128GB SSD, so I either repartion a space for an opensuse 11.4 install and probably never use it, or find some way to virtualise it without clogging up my SSD's limited space.............
That might be the better solution as I am more likely to use opensuse on my desktop in this scenario.
it's possible to build an suse studio appliance for this purpose jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgxog7_clip-l-ombre-et-la-lumiere-3-bad-pig... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgv_ZFtV14 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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