[opensuse-project] Communication channels in the project, and changes between old Boosters team and new openSUSE team
Hi, As you all know about a year ago the Boosters Team was disbanded and a new team of SUSE employees dedicated to the openSUSE project was formed, the openSUSE team at SUSE. For us within the community it is of course the other way around, the SUSE team within openSUSE, or short, the SUSE team ;). The transition has not been easy, neither for SUSE nor for us as a community. This transition and discussion thereof took as significant chunk of time at the board face to face meeting in Nuremberg. While the overall direction this is taking is very positive for us as a community, the communication about the changes has been sparse and thus we had some awkward situations in the recent past. We as the board now have a better understanding of things, and hopefully the following will shed some light on the big picture for everyone. Before we get to big picture however, it is important to know that communication paths have to change. Things you may have previously sent to the boosters to get help should now go to the board mailing list or to your Local Coordinator, the new Local Coordinator program was announced recently. Please keep this in mind. If you send random requests to the SUSE team you will be forwarded to the Board (except in very special cases). The Boosters team was chartered with undirected boosting, basically jumping in wherever a fire was burning and being there for everyone and for everything as much a possible. Generally the Boosters team was comprised of members that were well known within the community and thus all of this led to organic growth in many areas. Contributions from non SUSE employees to the project now outnumber those of SUSE employees and the contributions of non SUSE employees have steadily grown over the last 3 years. This shows that the Boosters had great success and that openSUSE has truly become a community project. With the community growth, the Boosters' approach doesn't scale anymore: the Boosters team turned into the default address for anything and everyone that wanted/needed some kind of help, may it be for event participation/organization or other "hand-holding" activities. As we all know a certain amount of hand-holding is required at times, but too much of it leads to complacency. The new SUSE team has a different charter. Rather than undirected boosting, the team is focusing on areas of perceived need. Currently there is a significant effort to work on openQA, documenting and possibly stream lining the release process, and we have already heard about the new TSP web app. Another item of focus was/is the shipping of merchandise. With the changes, the impact of the SUSE team on the project will be much different than we as the community were used to from the Boosters team. In addition to taking a directed approach to contributing to the project the SUSE team does not believe that it should be the default address for everything that might ail someone, but believes that the community can take over. This is a very understandable position as this would take significant amount of effort away from the new directed approach. This in the end is a positive change for us as a community as it will force us to take on more responsibility for our project. While this change has basically already taken place it was not well communicated and we ended up in some tough spots in the recent past, as mentioned previously. However, as we now have an understanding of this change we can fix the problem. First and foremost it is important to remember that if anything ails you, please do not send an email to the SUSE team, rather get help from a local coordinator, or send a message to the board. Other changes we can expect are financial responsibility and transparency. As mentioned in the meeting minutes of the face to face meeting, our project has a cost center and we will have a budget. As these details emerge we will communicate accordingly. The Local Coordinator program has already been announced as well as the change in merchandise shipping. Please help out with these programs and provide feedback to allow the programs to grow and evolve in a way the meets the our needs. The SUSE team is of course still part of the community and has no special status and you will see contributions from the SUSE team members to the project or upstream projects, such as openQA predominantly at the moment. If people would like to have a short intro of the SUSE team members please ask as a reply to this message, rather than having a large number of requests fill up Agustin's inbox. As always, if you have questions or concerns please reply to this thread or send a message to the board list. Thanks, Your openSUSE Board -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi,
As you all know about a year ago the Boosters Team was disbanded and a new team of SUSE employees dedicated to the openSUSE project was formed, the openSUSE team at SUSE. For us within the community it is of course the other way around, the SUSE team within openSUSE, or short, the SUSE team ;).
The transition has not been easy, neither for SUSE nor for us as a community. This transition and discussion thereof took as significant chunk of time at the board face to face meeting in Nuremberg. While the overall direction this is taking is very positive for us as a community, the communication about the changes has been sparse and thus we had some awkward situations in the recent past. We as the board now have a better understanding of things, and hopefully the following will shed some light on the big picture for everyone.
Before we get to big picture however, it is important to know that communication paths have to change. Things you may have previously sent to the boosters to get help should now go to the board mailing list or to your Local Coordinator, the new Local Coordinator program was announced recently. Please keep this in mind. If you send random requests to the SUSE team you will be forwarded to the Board (except in very special cases).
The Boosters team was chartered with undirected boosting, basically jumping in wherever a fire was burning and being there for everyone and for everything as much a possible. Generally the Boosters team was comprised of members that were well known within the community and thus all of this led to organic growth in many areas. Contributions from non SUSE employees to the project now outnumber those of SUSE employees and the contributions of non SUSE employees have steadily grown over the last 3 years. This shows that the Boosters had great success and that openSUSE has truly become a community project.
With the community growth, the Boosters' approach doesn't scale anymore: the Boosters team turned into the default address for anything and everyone that wanted/needed some kind of help, may it be for event participation/organization or other "hand-holding" activities. As we all know a certain amount of hand-holding is required at times, but too much of it leads to complacency.
The new SUSE team has a different charter. Rather than undirected boosting, the team is focusing on areas of perceived need. Currently there is a significant effort to work on openQA, documenting and possibly stream lining the release process, and we have already heard about the new TSP web app. Another item of focus was/is the shipping of merchandise. With the changes, the impact of the SUSE team on the project will be much different than we as the community were used to from the Boosters team.
In addition to taking a directed approach to contributing to the project the SUSE team does not believe that it should be the default address for everything that might ail someone, but believes that the community can take over. This is a very understandable position as this would take significant amount of effort away from the new directed approach. This in the end is a positive change for us as a community as it will force us to take on more responsibility for our project. While this change has basically already taken place it was not well communicated and we ended up in some tough spots in the recent past, as mentioned previously. However, as we now have an understanding of this change we can fix the problem. First and foremost it is important to remember that if anything ails you, please do not send an email to the SUSE team, rather get help from a local coordinator, or send a message to the board.
Other changes we can expect are financial responsibility and transparency. As mentioned in the meeting minutes of the face to face meeting, our project has a cost center and we will have a budget. As these details emerge we will communicate accordingly. The Local Coordinator program has already been announced as well as the change in merchandise shipping. Please help out with these programs and provide feedback to allow the programs to grow and evolve in a way the meets the our needs.
The SUSE team is of course still part of the community and has no special status and you will see contributions from the SUSE team members to the project or upstream projects, such as openQA predominantly at the moment. If people would like to have a short intro of the SUSE team members please ask as a reply to this message, rather than having a large number of requests fill up Agustin's inbox.
As always, if you have questions or concerns please reply to this thread or send a message to the board list.
Thanks,
Your openSUSE Board
Vuntzy! Thanks for the update. I was wondering... Will the board then also take the travel team under its wings, or are they still very independent? What does this mean for the marketing team in terms of reach and work? I know that the boosters team did not work much with the marketing team but as I read this notification, it seems that they are synonymous. -- Andy (anditosan) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Le lundi 17 juin 2013, à 13:48 -0600, Andy Silva a écrit :
Vuntzy! Thanks for the update. I was wondering... Will the board then also take the travel team under its wings, or are they still very independent?
The Travel Support Program is still lead by the same committee as before, see http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Travel_Support_Program (btw, I'm sure Izabel and Kostas wouldn't mind having some new people in the committee; volunteers would be a good thing!) As to the relationship between the board and the travel committee: this is a topic we should discuss during the conference next month. We will probably want to "formalize" a bit the relationship between the board and the travel committee, but I don't think it will change anything for all that matters: the board fully trusts the travel committee :-)
What does this mean for the marketing team in terms of reach and work? I know that the boosters team did not work much with the marketing team but as I read this notification, it seems that they are synonymous.
It means the marketing team should be animated by the community, which is no big cwhange, I guess ;-) I'm pretty sure there will still be support from SUSE people for marketing; people are not going away. Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Vincent,
Thanks for the update. When will the Local Coordinator be picked?
Pup
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Vincent Untz
Le lundi 17 juin 2013, à 13:48 -0600, Andy Silva a écrit :
Vuntzy! Thanks for the update. I was wondering... Will the board then also take the travel team under its wings, or are they still very independent?
The Travel Support Program is still lead by the same committee as before, see http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Travel_Support_Program
(btw, I'm sure Izabel and Kostas wouldn't mind having some new people in the committee; volunteers would be a good thing!)
As to the relationship between the board and the travel committee: this is a topic we should discuss during the conference next month. We will probably want to "formalize" a bit the relationship between the board and the travel committee, but I don't think it will change anything for all that matters: the board fully trusts the travel committee :-)
What does this mean for the marketing team in terms of reach and work? I know that the boosters team did not work much with the marketing team but as I read this notification, it seems that they are synonymous.
It means the marketing team should be animated by the community, which is no big cwhange, I guess ;-) I'm pretty sure there will still be support from SUSE people for marketing; people are not going away.
Cheers,
Vincent
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Hi Chuck,
On 17 June 2013 21:22, Chuck Payne
Vincent,
Thanks for the update. When will the Local Coordinator be picked?
Pup
"Soon" I feel like I must apologise - I got sideswiped by a significant amount of work at my day job precisely after launching the Local Coordinator programme, so my progress has been slower than I'd like I'm actually taking a few days off work this week to get this and some other bits and pieces back on track, so "watch this space", you should be hearing from me soon - Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Montag, 17. Juni 2013 schrieb Vincent Untz:
If people would like to have a short intro of the SUSE team members please ask as a reply to this message, rather than having a large number of requests fill up Agustin's inbox.
Yes, a short intro of the team members would of course be very welcome ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz PS: Looks like my (random!) sig noted the weather... -- liegt es vielleicht an den lauschigen 34°, die der Prozessor oder sowas nicht mitmacht? -> Soll ich mit dem Rechner jetzt zum Baggersee rausfah- ren und ihm ne Abkühlung verpassen... [Sebastian Schulze in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Christian, we will create a wiki page with the name and contact data for every member. Jos will announce it here. Currently the team is formed by: * Jos: community management (Berlin, GE) * Coolo: release manager (Nuremberg, GE) * Alberto Planas Dominguez: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Ludwig Nussel: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Michal Hrusecky: soft. developer (Prague, CZ) * Ancor Gonzalez Sosa: web developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Max Lin (temporary working in another department until Autumn): soft. developer (Taipei, TW) * Christopher Hofmann: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * myself, Agustin Benito Bethencourt: management (Nuremberg, GE) Three more members will join us this summer: * Graphical Designer * 2 Soft. developers As you probably know, we have created a team blog: https://lizards.opensuse.org/author/calumma/ to tell you what are we working on. The goal is to have one post per week, at least. On the openSUSE Conference Michal, Jos, Alberto, myself and one of the new members will be there. Those of you who attend to Hackathons in our offices will meet the rest after the summer. On Monday, June 17, 2013 11:36:04 PM Christian Boltz wrote:
Hello,
Am Montag, 17. Juni 2013 schrieb Vincent Untz:
If people would like to have a short intro of the SUSE team
members please ask as a reply to this message, rather than having a large number of requests fill up Agustin's inbox.
Yes, a short intro of the team members would of course be very welcome ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
PS: Looks like my (random!) sig noted the weather... -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe@suse.com
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Quoting Agustin Benito Bethencourt
Hi Christian,
we will create a wiki page with the name and contact data for every member. Jos will announce it here.
* Alberto Planas Dominguez: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE)
This is me! I am from Spain and I used to work for technology companies and organizations doing some R&D projects (definition, execution and coordination). I started working here at SUSE the last December, and since the I work on these projects: * Some datamining about the numbers of downloads and installations of openSUSE during the last 4 years. We will present these numbers in oSC13 * Helping with the release process doing some basic QA stuff and co-creating some infrastructure in the mirroring workflow. * Helping with the new openQA iteration, trying to improve the testing tool for Factory and 13.1. I really hope that this teamwork will help in the next release of openSUSE. We are preparing a workshop for oSC13 about this tool. Outside SUSE I try to continue with one of my principal interest: machine learning and NLP. Lets see if I can do something cool related with that and openSUSE : ). Regards, Alberto Planas. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/18/2013 10:03 AM, Agustin Benito Bethencourt wrote:
Hi Christian,
we will create a wiki page with the name and contact data for every member. Jos will announce it here.
Currently the team is formed by: * Jos: community management (Berlin, GE) * Coolo: release manager (Nuremberg, GE) * Alberto Planas Dominguez: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Ludwig Nussel: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Michal Hrusecky: soft. developer (Prague, CZ) * Ancor Gonzalez Sosa: web developer (Nuremberg, GE)
That's me. I'm from Spain. I drove my own open source based IT company there during 6 years until I joined the openSUSE team in February. As said, I'm a developer with a strong web background. Just to clarify: I'm not a web designer, so don't expect fancy and beautiful pages from me. In the recent past, I have developed a lot of management applications with web interfaces for companies and organizations with quite complex operation. I also have experience developing web sites with the Drupal CMS and deploying Linux based solutions for small companies (mail servers, Samba, LTSP...). Being able to code in several languages, I'm a Ruby fan. I have been using Ruby since 2002 (yes, before Rails came up), first for Qt based applications and later for web development. In my short time in the openSUSE team my two main tasks have been developing the new application which is being used to manage the Travel Support Program and helping to improve the new openQA web interface, besides several other small tasks like taking care of software.opensuse.org. In the near future, I would like to focus on improving several tools, both internal to the team and external, and on helping to push the new Ruby based Yast (I'm really excited about it). For more information (and a photo): https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/profile/ancorgs
* Max Lin (temporary working in another department until Autumn): soft. developer (Taipei, TW) * Christopher Hofmann: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * myself, Agustin Benito Bethencourt: management (Nuremberg, GE)
Three more members will join us this summer: * Graphical Designer * 2 Soft. developers
As you probably know, we have created a team blog: https://lizards.opensuse.org/author/calumma/ to tell you what are we working on. The goal is to have one post per week, at least.
On the openSUSE Conference Michal, Jos, Alberto, myself and one of the new members will be there. Those of you who attend to Hackathons in our offices will meet the rest after the summer.
On Monday, June 17, 2013 11:36:04 PM Christian Boltz wrote:
Hello,
Am Montag, 17. Juni 2013 schrieb Vincent Untz:
If people would like to have a short intro of the SUSE team
members please ask as a reply to this message, rather than having a large number of requests fill up Agustin's inbox. Yes, a short intro of the team members would of course be very welcome ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
PS: Looks like my (random!) sig noted the weather...
-- Ancor González Sosa openSUSE Team at Suse Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Agustin Benito Bethencourt - 10:03 18.06.13 wrote:
Hi Christian,
we will create a wiki page with the name and contact data for every member. Jos will announce it here.
Currently the team is formed by: * Jos: community management (Berlin, GE) * Coolo: release manager (Nuremberg, GE) * Alberto Planas Dominguez: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Ludwig Nussel: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Michal Hrusecky: soft. developer (Prague, CZ)
And this is me!
I'm working for SUSE for almost five years and have been part of the openSUSE
Boosters team since its the beginning, so you might have met me somewhere
already.
Last year you could met me madly running around screaming something about the
conference, in the obs, I'm the guy breaking MySQL and MariaDB.
And since the end of the conference I was mainly helping out with various tasks
around the release, be it helping to get 12.3 out or helping Factory to stay in
shape[1].
Being Booster was a lot of fun and we did quite some interesting and important
stuff and I'm looking forward to see how we will help openSUSE in our new
structure to be even better!
[1] http://lizards.opensuse.org/2013/06/13/keeping-factory-in-shape/
--
Michal Hrusecky
On Tuesday 18 June 2013 10:03:58 Agustin Benito Bethencourt wrote:
Hi Christian,
we will create a wiki page with the name and contact data for every member. Jos will announce it here.
Currently the team is formed by: * Jos: community management (Berlin, GE) Let me introduce myself again, too - I have met many of you but neither enough nor all of you ;-)
I've been community manager for SUSE, first working from the Marketing department with Andreas Jaeger and Alan Clark and occasionally the boosters; now I've joined the team of Agustin. As you know, I do writing and talking and hugging - lots of each of those ;-) Cheers, Jos
* Coolo: release manager (Nuremberg, GE) * Alberto Planas Dominguez: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Ludwig Nussel: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Michal Hrusecky: soft. developer (Prague, CZ) * Ancor Gonzalez Sosa: web developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Max Lin (temporary working in another department until Autumn): soft. developer (Taipei, TW) * Christopher Hofmann: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * myself, Agustin Benito Bethencourt: management (Nuremberg, GE)
Three more members will join us this summer: * Graphical Designer * 2 Soft. developers
As you probably know, we have created a team blog: https://lizards.opensuse.org/author/calumma/ to tell you what are we working on. The goal is to have one post per week, at least.
On the openSUSE Conference Michal, Jos, Alberto, myself and one of the new members will be there. Those of you who attend to Hackathons in our offices will meet the rest after the summer.
On Monday, June 17, 2013 11:36:04 PM Christian Boltz wrote:
Hello,
Am Montag, 17. Juni 2013 schrieb Vincent Untz:
If people would like to have a short intro of the SUSE team
members please ask as a reply to this message, rather than having a large number of requests fill up Agustin's inbox.
Yes, a short intro of the team members would of course be very welcome ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
PS: Looks like my (random!) sig noted the weather...
Agustin Benito Bethencourt wrote:
we will create a wiki page with the name and contact data for every member. Jos will announce it here.
Currently the team is formed by: * Jos: community management (Berlin, GE) * Coolo: release manager (Nuremberg, GE) * Alberto Planas Dominguez: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE) * Ludwig Nussel: soft. developer (Nuremberg, GE)
Hi, I've joined the team last year coming from the security team. Until the openQA sprint where I finally could write some code again I was busy coordinating tasks related to the conference in Prague and the 12.2 and 12.3 releases. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Vincent Untz
Hi,
As you all know about a year ago the Boosters Team was disbanded and a new team of SUSE employees dedicated to the openSUSE project was formed, the openSUSE team at SUSE. For us within the community it is of course the other way around, the SUSE team within openSUSE, or short, the SUSE team ;).
The transition has not been easy, neither for SUSE nor for us as a community. This transition and discussion thereof took as significant chunk of time at the board face to face meeting in Nuremberg. While the overall direction this is taking is very positive for us as a community, the communication about the changes has been sparse and thus we had some awkward situations in the recent past. We as the board now have a better understanding of things, and hopefully the following will shed some light on the big picture for everyone.
Before we get to big picture however, it is important to know that communication paths have to change. Things you may have previously sent to the boosters to get help should now go to the board mailing list or to your Local Coordinator, the new Local Coordinator program was announced recently. Please keep this in mind. If you send random requests to the SUSE team you will be forwarded to the Board (except in very special cases).
The Boosters team was chartered with undirected boosting, basically jumping in wherever a fire was burning and being there for everyone and for everything as much a possible. Generally the Boosters team was comprised of members that were well known within the community and thus all of this led to organic growth in many areas. Contributions from non SUSE employees to the project now outnumber those of SUSE employees and the contributions of non SUSE employees have steadily grown over the last 3 years. This shows that the Boosters had great success and that openSUSE has truly become a community project.
With the community growth, the Boosters' approach doesn't scale anymore: the Boosters team turned into the default address for anything and everyone that wanted/needed some kind of help, may it be for event participation/organization or other "hand-holding" activities. As we all know a certain amount of hand-holding is required at times, but too much of it leads to complacency.
The new SUSE team has a different charter. Rather than undirected boosting, the team is focusing on areas of perceived need. Currently there is a significant effort to work on openQA, documenting and possibly stream lining the release process, and we have already heard about the new TSP web app. Another item of focus was/is the shipping of merchandise. With the changes, the impact of the SUSE team on the project will be much different than we as the community were used to from the Boosters team.
In addition to taking a directed approach to contributing to the project the SUSE team does not believe that it should be the default address for everything that might ail someone, but believes that the community can take over. This is a very understandable position as this would take significant amount of effort away from the new directed approach. This in the end is a positive change for us as a community as it will force us to take on more responsibility for our project. While this change has basically already taken place it was not well communicated and we ended up in some tough spots in the recent past, as mentioned previously. However, as we now have an understanding of this change we can fix the problem. First and foremost it is important to remember that if anything ails you, please do not send an email to the SUSE team, rather get help from a local coordinator, or send a message to the board.
Other changes we can expect are financial responsibility and transparency. As mentioned in the meeting minutes of the face to face meeting, our project has a cost center and we will have a budget. As these details emerge we will communicate accordingly. The Local Coordinator program has already been announced as well as the change in merchandise shipping. Please help out with these programs and provide feedback to allow the programs to grow and evolve in a way the meets the our needs.
The SUSE team is of course still part of the community and has no special status and you will see contributions from the SUSE team members to the project or upstream projects, such as openQA predominantly at the moment. If people would like to have a short intro of the SUSE team members please ask as a reply to this message, rather than having a large number of requests fill up Agustin's inbox.
As always, if you have questions or concerns please reply to this thread or send a message to the board list.
Thanks,
Your openSUSE Board
Thank you for posting this update, it is very thoughtful to the community. It sounds as if things are becoming more structured and defined. I like these changes and ideas. I look forward to meeting the new local coordinator. -- God bless ! Scott DuBois www.ROGUEHORSE.com openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
participants (12)
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Agustin Benito Bethencourt
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Alberto Planas Dominguez
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Ancor Gonzalez Sosa
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Andy Silva
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Christian Boltz
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Chuck Payne
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DuBois, Scott L.
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Jos Poortvliet
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Ludwig Nussel
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Michal Hrusecky
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Richard Brown
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Vincent Untz