[opensuse-project] Default search engine on search-o-o
Hi, We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10 I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Op dinsdag 9 juni 2020 18:29:14 CEST schreef Stasiek Michalski:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world My preference would be to change it to DuckDuckGo. For obvious reasons.
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On Tue 09 Jun 2020 06:32:39 PM CDT, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op dinsdag 9 juni 2020 18:29:14 CEST schreef Stasiek Michalski:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world My preference would be to change it to DuckDuckGo. For obvious reasons.
Hi The one pushed to add is not high on the list (runs an unknown version as well)? https://searx.space/ To me it doesn't matter I change it locally ;) -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) Tumbleweed 20200604 | GNOME Shell 3.36.2 | 5.6.14-1-default Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia up 3 days 18:01, 2 users, load average: 3.47, 2.93, 2.35 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:40, Malcolm <malcolmlewis@cableone.net> wrote:
Hi The one pushed to add is not high on the list (runs an unknown version as well)? https://searx.space/
To me it doesn't matter I change it locally ;)
Sure, requesting changing the searx instance we use is welcome, if you suggest something that works well LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:29 PM Stasiek Michalski <hellcp@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
I'd rather keep it on Google Search, simply because it's the only search that actually seems to broadly work. I've tried using others from time to time (e.g. DuckDuckGo! is a common one people bring up) and they're just bad. Sometimes I get no results, but a lot more often I get the *wrong* results. Frankly, I think we generally expect Google Search quality results, and nobody is quite to the level to replace it for the majority of cases. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 6/10/20 2:03 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:29 PM Stasiek Michalski <hellcp@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
I'd rather keep it on Google Search, simply because it's the only search that actually seems to broadly work. I've tried using others from time to time (e.g. DuckDuckGo! is a common one people bring up) and they're just bad. Sometimes I get no results, but a lot more often I get the *wrong* results.
Frankly, I think we generally expect Google Search quality results, and nobody is quite to the level to replace it for the majority of cases.
This has been my experience as well so i'd tend to agree. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
Personally, I LOVE the *idea* of this. I can't say I've heard of this particular engine, but I have heard of a number of others. Is there a particular reason why this one was selected over the other privacy focused engines? Please don't take this as disapproval - I'm ALWAYS in favor of anything that promotes privacy. Chase Crum | Sr. Architect a: SUSE | Professional Services | Consulting e: chase.crum@suse.com | w: suse.com/consulting m: (918) 568-2808 #ChangeStartsRightHere #DareToBeDifferent 0250 A137 772C B90F 79C4 5D53 1611 DE08 CDE2 B49A On 6/9/20 11:29 AM, Stasiek Michalski wrote:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 11:33, Chase Crum <chase.crum@suse.com> wrote:
Personally, I LOVE the *idea* of this. I can't say I've heard of this particular engine, but I have heard of a number of others. Is there a particular reason why this one was selected over the other privacy focused engines? Please don't take this as disapproval - I'm ALWAYS in favor of anything that promotes privacy.
I would guess the reason is open source, but you should probably ask that in the PR LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 6/9/20 11:29 AM, Stasiek Michalski wrote:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world
i think this is the best option assuming o-o uses a good instance or self hosts. Re. some of the current responses: Searx is a meta search engine and supports various search engines by default, including duckduckgo and google, among others. https://asciimoo.github.io/searx/admin/engines.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Le 09/06/2020 à 18:42, ITwrx a écrit :
Re. some of the current responses: Searx is a meta search engine and supports various search engines by default, including duckduckgo and google, among others.
so prone to be slow (as duck is) and redundent. google is the best by the result, but why not Qwant as well? jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Stasiek Michalski composed on 2020-06-09 18:29 (UTC+0200):
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
Privacy is nice, but other engines I've used on multiple occasions are clearly inferior hit producers. Google is my goto, unless I know what I'm looking for is on Wikipedia or eBay. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Change in default search engine? Yes. Change to searx? Maybe. As pointed out by others, DuckDuckGo is a bit controversial, because of "something right vs useful" dilema. I try to use it, but often I fall back to startpage.com as a safe proxy to google. Change to searx.xyz instance? I'm not sure. What do we know about it? Who owns it? Is it reliable? Can we trust it?
On 09/06/2020 18.29, Stasiek Michalski wrote:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world
How about telling how to set it up ourselves for testing now? :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 20:40, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 09/06/2020 18.29, Stasiek Michalski wrote:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world
How about telling how to set it up ourselves for testing now? :-)
jekyll-template has the commands for setting up jekyll websites: https://github.com/openSUSE/jekyll-template#how-to-build You will need bundler though, which you can grab via rubygem(bundler) provides in zypper LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/06/2020 21.27, Stasiek Michalski wrote:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 20:40, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:
On 09/06/2020 18.29, Stasiek Michalski wrote:
Hi,
We got a PR sent our way about a change in default search engine https://github.com/openSUSE/search-o-o/pull/10
I would like to hear opinion of the community at large before merging it
Thanks in advance, LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world
How about telling how to set it up ourselves for testing now? :-)
jekyll-template has the commands for setting up jekyll websites: https://github.com/openSUSE/jekyll-template#how-to-build
You will need bundler though, which you can grab via rubygem(bundler) provides in zypper
Huh. Unless someone provides a click and point method, as any other search engine in Firefox, it is not going to catch. <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?category=search-tools&sort=recommended%2Cusers&type=extension> I don't see "searx". Then I'm against it being set as default. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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