Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:21:45 CET schreef Mathias Homann:

Hi,

I know that Leap is based on SLES, but do we really need SUSEConnect and rollback-helper in Leap?

Cheers MH SUSEConnect is in Tw, so that's probably why SLE has it and hence Leap. Same goes for rollback-helper. Apparently part of the defaults. No idea though whether these packages are needed.

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Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:41:47 CET schreef Richard Brown:

On 21 March 2018 at 22:21, Mathias Homann wrote:

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Hi,

I know that Leap is based on SLES, but do we really need SUSEConnect and rollback-helper in Leap?.

There is no practical use for them being in Tumbleweed, but there are key development benefits for SUSE (all SUSE packages should be in Tumbleweed first before SUSE engineers are allowed to include them in SLE). They do no harm and I’m sure we have other packages which have been contributed to TW that have very narrow use cases.

In Leap though those packages will also have a practical benefit. SUSE plan to offer a migration path for Leap users who wish to move to their enterprise product.

Leap 15 users who decide they want to buy SLE 15 will need to use those tools to do an in place migration from Leap to SLE

So they’re nice to have, sure

Understood, but they could be just recommends / optional, couldn't they ? Mind, I don't mind them being there, but why would we have them installed by default?

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Cheers MH

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Op donderdag 22 maart 2018 00:10:58 CET schreef Simon Lees:

On 22/03/18 09:27, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:

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Op woensdag 21 maart 2018 22:41:47 CET schreef Richard Brown:

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On 21 March 2018 at 22:21, Mathias Homann

wrote:

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Hi,

I know that Leap is based on SLES, but do we really need SUSEConnect and rollback-helper in Leap?.

There is no practical use for them being in Tumbleweed, but there are key development benefits for SUSE (all SUSE packages should be in Tumbleweed first before SUSE engineers are allowed to include them in SLE). They do no harm and I’m sure we have other packages which have been contributed to TW that have very narrow use cases.

In Leap though those packages will also have a practical benefit. SUSE plan to offer a migration path for Leap users who wish to move to their enterprise product.

Leap 15 users who decide they want to buy SLE 15 will need to use those tools to do an in place migration from Leap to SLE

So they’re nice to have, sure

Understood, but they could be just recommends / optional, couldn't they ? Mind, I don't mind them being there, but why would we have them installed by default?

I tend to agree with this, i've submitted a change to the patterns for leap and tumbleweed will follow sometime soon (i'm in the middle of a bigger set of changes there)

Great. We've seen this pop up in the forums as well. This SR would fix that, no doubt. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team Linux user #548252 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org