[opensuse-project] Browser startup homepage
Hi, I completely agree, changing the homepage to www.google.co.uk is one of the first things I do after I install openSUSE. If the homepage was, as Ubuntu's is, similar to google but with some openSUSE branding, I wouldn't even consider changing it. When I had Ubuntu installed I didn't think about changing the home page. 2010/1/9 Wolfgang Rosenauer <wr@opensuse.org>
Hi,
I would like to bring up a discussion again about what the browser startpage should be. I'm not convinced about the current startpage itself and also its integration into the browser (mainly Firefox in my case obviously).
Our current startpage is: http://www.opensuse.org/
Compare that with other distributions and the original Firefox startpage:
http://start.ubuntu.com/9.10/ http://www.google.de/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official (this is where it ends up from a mozilla.com redirect) http://start.fedoraproject.org/
I agree with all the others that a global web search should be on that startpage and it should be pretty simple. Our current startpage only invites people to change it anyway IMHO.
What do others think about it?
From a technical perspective I'm planning to change the Firefox startpage to load a local document which decides what page to load dependent on the online status because currently only an error page is displayed if Firefox is started offline with the current start page. I'm mentioning that explicitely because it would be nice if someone could design a page which should be shown when offline.
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On 13/01/10 16:07, Barry Nichols wrote:
Hi,
I completely agree, changing the homepage to www.google.co.uk is one of the first things I do after I install openSUSE.
If the homepage was, as Ubuntu's is, similar to google but with some openSUSE branding, I wouldn't even consider changing it. When I had Ubuntu installed I didn't think about changing the home page.
2010/1/9 Wolfgang Rosenauer <wr@opensuse.org>
Hi,
I would like to bring up a discussion again about what the browser startpage should be. I'm not convinced about the current startpage itself and also its integration into the browser (mainly Firefox in my case obviously).
Our current startpage is: http://www.opensuse.org/
Compare that with other distributions and the original Firefox startpage:
http://start.ubuntu.com/9.10/ http://www.google.de/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official (this is where it ends up from a mozilla.com redirect) http://start.fedoraproject.org/
I agree with all the others that a global web search should be on that startpage and it should be pretty simple. Our current startpage only invites people to change it anyway IMHO.
What do others think about it?
From a technical perspective I'm planning to change the Firefox startpage to load a local document which decides what page to load dependent on the online status because currently only an error page is displayed if Firefox is started offline with the current start page. I'm mentioning that explicitely because it would be nice if someone could design a page which should be shown when offline.
Wolfgang
Christ! I missed the original from Wolfgang. For chrissake, Wolfgang, what are you- a paid employee of Google and will get a commission from Google for what you are suggesting that you will do?! Who gives a rat's-arse what other distros - Ubuntu etc - do. Are *they* getting a pay-back from Google for making the startpage as Google? Leave the startpage as it is! Don't do anything! Leave the damn thing along! Where did you get this idea of altering the startpage anyway? Google told you to do it? Some hundreds of users asked you to do it? Leave it alone! BC -- Take the bull by the tail and look the facts in the face. W C Fields -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
On 13/01/10 16:07, Barry Nichols wrote:
Hi,
I completely agree, changing the homepage to www.google.co.uk is one of the first things I do after I install openSUSE.
If the homepage was, as Ubuntu's is, similar to google but with some openSUSE branding, I wouldn't even consider changing it. When I had Ubuntu installed I didn't think about changing the home page.
2010/1/9 Wolfgang Rosenauer <wr@opensuse.org>
Hi,
I would like to bring up a discussion again about what the browser startpage should be. I'm not convinced about the current startpage itself and also its integration into the browser (mainly Firefox in my case obviously).
Our current startpage is: http://www.opensuse.org/
Compare that with other distributions and the original Firefox startpage:
http://start.ubuntu.com/9.10/ http://www.google.de/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official (this is where it ends up from a mozilla.com redirect) http://start.fedoraproject.org/
I agree with all the others that a global web search should be on that startpage and it should be pretty simple. Our current startpage only invites people to change it anyway IMHO.
What do others think about it?
From a technical perspective I'm planning to change the Firefox startpage to load a local document which decides what page to load dependent on the online status because currently only an error page is displayed if Firefox is started offline with the current start page. I'm mentioning that explicitely because it would be nice if someone could design a page which should be shown when offline.
Wolfgang
Christ!
I missed the original from Wolfgang.
For chrissake, Wolfgang, what are you- a paid employee of Google and will get a commission from Google for what you are suggesting that you will do?!
Who gives a rat's-arse what other distros - Ubuntu etc - do. Are *they* getting a pay-back from Google for making the startpage as Google?
Leave the startpage as it is!
Don't do anything! Leave the damn thing along!
Where did you get this idea of altering the startpage anyway? Google told you to do it? Some hundreds of users asked you to do it?
Leave it alone!
BC
I dont know about 100 users, but I for one tend to agree with Wolfgang that it needs a change, as otherwise every user changes the default homepage. Wolfgang, Just thinking out loud, do you think it will be good to have FF plugin, where we can show thumbnails of "recently visited pages". In the top/bottom (or background) we may have custom picture slots which individual distros can use for their branding/customization ? Reminded of Chrome ? -- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 13:47 +0530, Sankar P wrote:
I dont know about 100 users, but I for one tend to agree with Wolfgang that it needs a change, as otherwise every user changes the default homepage.
Wolfgang, Just thinking out loud, do you think it will be good to have FF plugin, where we can show thumbnails of "recently visited pages". In the top/bottom (or background) we may have custom picture slots which individual distros can use for their branding/customization ? Reminded of Chrome ?
I like this idea, I also like the idea of being able to put a feed of openSUSE News on the start-up page to get big news (surveys, important updates, etc.) in front of the users. I actually wonder, and someone would have to talk to Google about this, if we can get a Google/openSUSE co-branded iGoogle page, which allows for more customization for both the project and the user...? -- Kevin "Yeaux" Dupuy - http://www.twitter.com/KevinYeaux openSUSE Project Member - <kevin.dupuy@opensuse.org> President, Young Americans for Liberty at BHS <http://www.yaliberty.com> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Sorry for top-posting, on a related note - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html Read the WHY section. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Sankar P <sankar.curiosity@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
On 13/01/10 16:07, Barry Nichols wrote:
Hi,
I completely agree, changing the homepage to www.google.co.uk is one of the first things I do after I install openSUSE.
If the homepage was, as Ubuntu's is, similar to google but with some openSUSE branding, I wouldn't even consider changing it. When I had Ubuntu installed I didn't think about changing the home page.
2010/1/9 Wolfgang Rosenauer <wr@opensuse.org>
Hi,
I would like to bring up a discussion again about what the browser startpage should be. I'm not convinced about the current startpage itself and also its integration into the browser (mainly Firefox in my case obviously).
Our current startpage is: http://www.opensuse.org/
Compare that with other distributions and the original Firefox startpage:
http://start.ubuntu.com/9.10/ http://www.google.de/firefox?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official (this is where it ends up from a mozilla.com redirect) http://start.fedoraproject.org/
I agree with all the others that a global web search should be on that startpage and it should be pretty simple. Our current startpage only invites people to change it anyway IMHO.
What do others think about it?
From a technical perspective I'm planning to change the Firefox startpage to load a local document which decides what page to load dependent on the online status because currently only an error page is displayed if Firefox is started offline with the current start page. I'm mentioning that explicitely because it would be nice if someone could design a page which should be shown when offline.
Wolfgang
Christ!
I missed the original from Wolfgang.
For chrissake, Wolfgang, what are you- a paid employee of Google and will get a commission from Google for what you are suggesting that you will do?!
Who gives a rat's-arse what other distros - Ubuntu etc - do. Are *they* getting a pay-back from Google for making the startpage as Google?
Leave the startpage as it is!
Don't do anything! Leave the damn thing along!
Where did you get this idea of altering the startpage anyway? Google told you to do it? Some hundreds of users asked you to do it?
Leave it alone!
BC
I dont know about 100 users, but I for one tend to agree with Wolfgang that it needs a change, as otherwise every user changes the default homepage.
Wolfgang, Just thinking out loud, do you think it will be good to have FF plugin, where we can show thumbnails of "recently visited pages". In the top/bottom (or background) we may have custom picture slots which individual distros can use for their branding/customization ? Reminded of Chrome ?
-- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com
-- Sankar P http://psankar.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Basil, Le mercredi 13 janvier 2010, à 17:02 +1100, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Christ!
I missed the original from Wolfgang.
For chrissake, Wolfgang, what are you- a paid employee of Google and will get a commission from Google for what you are suggesting that you will do?!
I can understand you disagree with Wolfgang's proposal, but I find that your tone in this reply is not appropriate. Can you please avoid attacking people, and instead focus on the topic? Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Onsdag den 13. januar 2010 06:07:12 skrev Barry Nichols:
I completely agree, changing the homepage to www.google.co.uk is one of the first things I do after I install openSUSE.
If the homepage was, as Ubuntu's is, similar to google but with some openSUSE branding, I wouldn't even consider changing it. When I had Ubuntu installed I didn't think about changing the home page.
I wonder if Google could be pressed to sponsor/cough up some money for the project if they were made the default browser start page (in some modified, openSUSE-branded form). Not sure I'd like openSUSE to be pushing their stuff more for free. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 09:17:14 schrieb Martin Schlander:
Onsdag den 13. januar 2010 06:07:12 skrev Barry Nichols:
I completely agree, changing the homepage to www.google.co.uk is one of the first things I do after I install openSUSE.
If the homepage was, as Ubuntu's is, similar to google but with some openSUSE branding, I wouldn't even consider changing it. When I had Ubuntu installed I didn't think about changing the home page.
I wonder if Google could be pressed to sponsor/cough up some money for the project if they were made the default browser start page (in some modified, openSUSE-branded form).
Not sure I'd like openSUSE to be pushing their stuff more for free.
Why not Microsoft Bing? Then make a small nod to the MS - Novell deal and opensuse will be on all the hater web again! =) In a more serious tone I agree with Martin here, most of us use google even though we are not really comfortable with their power, why not make a branded wikipedia search? Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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