[opensuse-project] openSUSE 13.1 and Evergreen
Hello, The openSUSE Evergreen team would like to announce that openSUSE 13.1 will be the next Evergreen release. This means that openSUSE 13.1 will continue to be supplied with security updates and important bugfixes until it has had a total life time of at least three years. The openSUSE Evergreen team expands the lifespan of openSUSE releases by issuing security- and stability fixes after the usual 18 months. The team has kept selected releases maintained for an additional one and a half to three years. The first Evergreen release was openSUSE 11.1. Current releases in the Evergreen maintenance program are openSUSE 11.2 to be maintained until november 2013 (a total of 4 years) and 11.4 to be maintained until July 2014 (reaching over three). Find more information about Evergreen and how to keep your openSUSE release alive on the Evergreen wiki page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen on behalf of the whole Evergreen team Wolfgang Rosenauer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Wolfgang, I take this opportunity to thank you guys for the very valuable work you are doing in Evergreen. On Monday 26 August 2013 11:34:06 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hello,
The openSUSE Evergreen team would like to announce that openSUSE 13.1 will be the next Evergreen release. This means that openSUSE 13.1 will continue to be supplied with security updates and important bugfixes until it has had a total life time of at least three years.
The openSUSE Evergreen team expands the lifespan of openSUSE releases by issuing security- and stability fixes after the usual 18 months. The team has kept selected releases maintained for an additional one and a half to three years. The first Evergreen release was openSUSE 11.1. Current releases in the Evergreen maintenance program are openSUSE 11.2 to be maintained until november 2013 (a total of 4 years) and 11.4 to be maintained until July 2014 (reaching over three).
Find more information about Evergreen and how to keep your openSUSE release alive on the Evergreen wiki page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen
on behalf of the whole Evergreen team Wolfgang Rosenauer -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe@suse.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2013-08-26 a las 12:45 +0200, agustin benito bethencourt escribió:
Hi Wolfgang,
I take this opportunity to thank you guys for the very valuable work you are doing in Evergreen.
Me too. :-) I'd like to take the oportunity to raise awareness of an issue with evergreen: that packagers remove the repos for 11.4 version, creating dificulties for people that used them when 11.4 was "new". For example, the kde stable repo has dissapeared, meaning I might have to "degrade" my 11.4 to to the plain OSS. It would be appreciated if they at least freeze those repos. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlIbSDwACgkQja8UbcUWM1xoNwD+Pv1jFneoCWtlJSJIDDWRfvGh 97tnRjfnXnOG8g7r970A/14e1eN98R7t2+WzWFuDzBGclyKH9aGzUhS9QJSeUO7t =jLMm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Quoting "Carlos E. R." <carlos.e.r@opensuse.org>:
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El 2013-08-26 a las 12:45 +0200, agustin benito bethencourt escribió:
Hi Wolfgang,
I take this opportunity to thank you guys for the very valuable work you are doing in Evergreen.
Me too. :-)
I'd like to take the oportunity to raise awareness of an issue with evergreen: that packagers remove the repos for 11.4 version, creating dificulties for people that used them when 11.4 was "new". For example, the kde stable repo has dissapeared, meaning I might have to "degrade" my 11.4 to to the plain OSS.
It would be appreciated if they at least freeze those repos.
Why would you have to downgrade? you can keep all the packages you ever downloaded and installed. Not having the repository only stops you from installing stuff from there - not from using the stuff. If you consider KDE important enough on an Evergreen installation, I'd advocate to get into the Evergreen update and actually MAINTAIN those packages. SOMEBODY must do the work; and I'd be surprised if much was done on those packages lately to 'maintain' them, incl. eventual security fixes (I don't know.. maybe there was a lot of work done.. ) Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 El 2013-08-26 a las 15:28 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar escribió:
Quoting "Carlos E. R." <>:
It would be appreciated if they at least freeze those repos.
Why would you have to downgrade? you can keep all the packages you ever downloaded and installed. Not having the repository only stops you from installing stuff from there - not from using the stuff.
Which could happen. I might need to add a component. Sometimes you even need to reinstall.
If you consider KDE important enough on an Evergreen installation, I'd advocate to get into the Evergreen update and actually MAINTAIN those packages. SOMEBODY must do the work; and I'd be surprised if much was done on those packages lately to 'maintain' them, incl. eventual security fixes (I don't know.. maybe there was a lot of work done.. )
I'm not asking for the packages to be maintained actively. I'm only asking for them not to be deleted, it is a different thing. It only needs space on (some) servers and mirrors, no maintenance time. When a repo is actively maintained for evergreen, it can be renamed 'evergreen' instead. It would be very aceptable if a mirror branch is created with an image of as many repos as possible, and frozen. Then they are taken out of the mirror replication across the world, unless by those that want to. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlIbmRUACgkQja8UbcUWM1zMqAD/QfBi73h95J01oGVHtMV37I0N 1GtZllXmg1GJneT0j4QA/3PDNJub2OzhLrPBfozfMZxhyIzcb0GLD5ejtQdkCq/X =DcEX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
participants (4)
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agustin benito bethencourt
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Carlos E. R.
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Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar
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Wolfgang Rosenauer