[opensuse-project] Reviving the marketing team
Hi all! Watching openSUSE from being not involved in development I get the impression that it keeps acting like a poker player: Having a full deck of cards at hand including four aces but not showing to anyone just because the position of his sun glasses could… possibly… eventually… under circumstances… be optimized. That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes: 1) Create content - present tools - continuous reports about developments going on - do interviews with different people/teams about their work in oS - ask people running booths to report - show how cool oS features are - draw pictures, memes and such - create video demos of various oS features 2) Create buzz - push stuff from 1) to any platform online - push shop-o-o with monthly product - make raffles of stickers etc. - invite to chats, forums etc. to discuss things 3) Keep following up - run regular onboarding events for new people interested to help - tailor events for special interests ("how to work with oS as a web dev") I am willing to step up and coordinate the whole thing a bit. But this all needs a few more people. Anyone wanting to help with this is welcome. Also please keep in mind that the things I mentioned are just ideas and discussion is very much welcome. What are your thoughts? Who's in? Regards, vinz.
Hi Vinzenz, Count me in to create some buzz. Content-wise, I won't commit now, but I'll see perhaps if I can create some videos featuring desktop features. I see that you've posted on the openSUSE Marketing list as well. Guessing by the inaction on the mailing list in the previous months, I am continuing the discussion here. Regards, Ish Sookun On 12/29/19 3:17 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
Hi all!
Watching openSUSE from being not involved in development I get the impression that it keeps acting like a poker player:
Having a full deck of cards at hand including four aces but not showing to anyone just because the position of his sun glasses could… possibly… eventually… under circumstances… be optimized.
That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes:
1) Create content - present tools - continuous reports about developments going on - do interviews with different people/teams about their work in oS - ask people running booths to report - show how cool oS features are - draw pictures, memes and such - create video demos of various oS features
2) Create buzz - push stuff from 1) to any platform online - push shop-o-o with monthly product - make raffles of stickers etc. - invite to chats, forums etc. to discuss things
3) Keep following up - run regular onboarding events for new people interested to help - tailor events for special interests ("how to work with oS as a web dev")
I am willing to step up and coordinate the whole thing a bit. But this all needs a few more people. Anyone wanting to help with this is welcome. Also please keep in mind that the things I mentioned are just ideas and discussion is very much welcome.
What are your thoughts? Who's in?
Regards, vinz.
Hello Vinzenz, Am 29.12.19 um 00:17 schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke:
That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved.
your initiative sounds very interesting but as far as content creation is concerned I do not have the right skills such as video editing or graphics design. There are at lot of people who are way better in this regard than me. I love writing texts though and I am running an openSUSE blog called "Tumbleweed Adventures" in German. https://tumbleweed-adventures.blogspot.com/ Should you need somebody for press relations and writing I am definetely interested.
What are your thoughts? Who's in?
I am interested. Would communication of the Marketing-Team be handled through a dedicated mailing list, Discord etc.? Kind regards, Maik "tapwag" Wagner -- Maik Wagner www.linuxandlanguages.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Doing more in a more coordinated way sounds great On 12/29/19 9:47 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
Hi all!
Watching openSUSE from being not involved in development I get the impression that it keeps acting like a poker player:
Having a full deck of cards at hand including four aces but not showing to anyone just because the position of his sun glasses could… possibly… eventually… under circumstances… be optimized.
That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes:
The best way to find the artwork guys is in #artwork on the openSUSE discord community, which is probably also mirrored to the same place on our matrix network -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
Hi vinz, great invitation, count me in. Am 29. Dezember 2019 00:17:23 MEZ schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke <vinz@vinzv.de>:
1) Create content
This leads me to our Wiki what needs more love, care and support. But I see your other important points, too.
- ask people running booths to report
Good point. I made two in 2019 in will write a report for opensuse-marketing.
2) Create buzz - push stuff from 1) to any platform online Also a great point: Every community memeber who is on Twitter, Mastodon, FB etc. should push our fantastic stuff and promote our friendly OS. :-)
- invite to chats, forums etc. to discuss things
We are allready doing this with Telegramm, Matrix, Discord etc. and wie should do promote this more.
3) Keep following up - run regular onboarding events for new people interested to help
We lately thought about maybe to run an edit-a-athon for the Wiki to check if the articles are up-to-date and translated. Maybe this could be an onboarding event? Regards, Christian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 00:17, Vinzenz Vietzke <vinz@vinzv.de> wrote:
What are your thoughts? Who's in?
Could we maybe call a meeting sometime in January? It would be nice to get a bridge for #opensuse-marketing room before then, for the sake of convenience. We have a lot of marketing to discuss, not to mention Leap 15.2 in May. LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2019, 10:28:46 CET schrieb Stasiek Michalski:
On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 00:17, Vinzenz Vietzke <vinz@vinzv.de> wrote:
What are your thoughts? Who's in?
Could we maybe call a meeting sometime in January? It would be nice to get a bridge for #opensuse-marketing room before then, for the sake of convenience. We have a lot of marketing to discuss, not to mention Leap 15.2 in May.
Fully support this idea! Please dont forget Doug in that context! Cheers Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, first of all, thanks for all of your ideas and help offerings!
What are your thoughts? Who's in?
Could we maybe call a meeting sometime in January? It would be nice to get a bridge for #opensuse-marketing room before then, for the sake of convenience.
That's a good plan. I'll try to get bridging finished and set up date/time for a meeting.
Please dont forget Doug in that context!
Never would! vinz.
Hi Vinz and fellow chameleons, really great idea! What about a possibility for internet content to be published on openSUSE? Like my game reviews or distro articles on openSUSE as a gaming platform might be relevant for these marketing efforts. For example this base article on opensuse gaming: https://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/wiki/opensuse or the article on "how to turn opensuse into a gaming machine" article for leap 15.0: https://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/news/opensuse_leap_15_als_linuxsystem_f%C... Beside the fact that these articles are in german they might be interesting for a wider opensuse audience. Wasn't opensuse planet some kind of blog aggregation for this purpose? All the best, Bernd Am So., 29. Dez. 2019 um 00:17 Uhr schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke <vinz@vinzv.de>:
Hi all!
Watching openSUSE from being not involved in development I get the impression that it keeps acting like a poker player:
Having a full deck of cards at hand including four aces but not showing to anyone just because the position of his sun glasses could… possibly… eventually… under circumstances… be optimized.
That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes:
1) Create content - present tools - continuous reports about developments going on - do interviews with different people/teams about their work in oS - ask people running booths to report - show how cool oS features are - draw pictures, memes and such - create video demos of various oS features
2) Create buzz - push stuff from 1) to any platform online - push shop-o-o with monthly product - make raffles of stickers etc. - invite to chats, forums etc. to discuss things
3) Keep following up - run regular onboarding events for new people interested to help - tailor events for special interests ("how to work with oS as a web dev")
I am willing to step up and coordinate the whole thing a bit. But this all needs a few more people. Anyone wanting to help with this is welcome. Also please keep in mind that the things I mentioned are just ideas and discussion is very much welcome.
What are your thoughts? Who's in?
Regards, vinz.
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Hi Bernd,
Gesendet: Montag, 30. Dezember 2019 um 00:21 Uhr Von: "Bernd Ritter" <commel@gmail.com> An: oS-project <opensuse-project@opensuse.org> Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Reviving the marketing team
Hi Vinz and fellow chameleons,
really great idea! What about a possibility for internet content to be published on openSUSE? Like my game reviews or distro articles on openSUSE as a gaming platform might be relevant for these marketing efforts.
For example this base article on opensuse gaming: https://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/wiki/opensuse
or the article on
"how to turn opensuse into a gaming machine" article for leap 15.0: https://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/news/opensuse_leap_15_als_linuxsystem_f%C...
Beside the fact that these articles are in german they might be interesting for a wider opensuse audience.
Wasn't opensuse planet some kind of blog aggregation for this purpose?
Yes. We have planet.opensuse.org for such blog articles: https://planet.opensuse.org/global/ Add your blog as a Pull Request on Github to https://github.com/openSUSE/planet.opensuse.org.
All the best, Bernd
Best regards, Sarah
Am So., 29. Dez. 2019 um 00:17 Uhr schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke <vinz@vinzv.de>:
Hi all!
Watching openSUSE from being not involved in development I get the impression that it keeps acting like a poker player:
Having a full deck of cards at hand including four aces but not showing to anyone just because the position of his sun glasses could… possibly… eventually… under circumstances… be optimized.
That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes:
1) Create content - present tools - continuous reports about developments going on - do interviews with different people/teams about their work in oS - ask people running booths to report - show how cool oS features are - draw pictures, memes and such - create video demos of various oS features
2) Create buzz - push stuff from 1) to any platform online - push shop-o-o with monthly product - make raffles of stickers etc. - invite to chats, forums etc. to discuss things
3) Keep following up - run regular onboarding events for new people interested to help - tailor events for special interests ("how to work with oS as a web dev")
I am willing to step up and coordinate the whole thing a bit. But this all needs a few more people. Anyone wanting to help with this is welcome. Also please keep in mind that the things I mentioned are just ideas and discussion is very much welcome.
What are your thoughts? Who's in?
Regards, vinz.
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Hi everybody! I have some experience in print and publishing and would like to do some work for the opensuse project. For example flyer, posters, small give-aways like buttons. In a limited scope I can also assist in coordination. Best regards, Simon Am 30.12.19 um 00:21 schrieb Bernd Ritter:
Hi Vinz and fellow chameleons,
really great idea! What about a possibility for internet content to be published on openSUSE? Like my game reviews or distro articles on openSUSE as a gaming platform might be relevant for these marketing efforts.
For example this base article on opensuse gaming: https://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/wiki/opensuse
or the article on
"how to turn opensuse into a gaming machine" article for leap 15.0: https://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/news/opensuse_leap_15_als_linuxsystem_f%C...
Beside the fact that these articles are in german they might be interesting for a wider opensuse audience.
Wasn't opensuse planet some kind of blog aggregation for this purpose?
All the best, Bernd
Am So., 29. Dez. 2019 um 00:17 Uhr schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke <vinz@vinzv.de>:
Hi all!
Watching openSUSE from being not involved in development I get the impression that it keeps acting like a poker player:
Having a full deck of cards at hand including four aces but not showing to anyone just because the position of his sun glasses could… possibly… eventually… under circumstances… be optimized.
That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes:
1) Create content - present tools - continuous reports about developments going on - do interviews with different people/teams about their work in oS - ask people running booths to report - show how cool oS features are - draw pictures, memes and such - create video demos of various oS features
2) Create buzz - push stuff from 1) to any platform online - push shop-o-o with monthly product - make raffles of stickers etc. - invite to chats, forums etc. to discuss things
3) Keep following up - run regular onboarding events for new people interested to help - tailor events for special interests ("how to work with oS as a web dev")
I am willing to step up and coordinate the whole thing a bit. But this all needs a few more people. Anyone wanting to help with this is welcome. Also please keep in mind that the things I mentioned are just ideas and discussion is very much welcome.
What are your thoughts? Who's in?
Regards, vinz.
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Am 29.12.19 um 00:17 schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke:
That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes:
1) Create content
Also a refresh of desktop backgrounds is a good idea in my mind (https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Artwork) Cheers, thal
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 00:41, Alex Christoph Bihlmaier <alex@bihlmaier.at> wrote:
Am 29.12.19 um 00:17 schrieb Vinzenz Vietzke:
That's something I want to change and want to revive the marketing team and get arts people involved. So I started to take notes:
1) Create content
Also a refresh of desktop backgrounds is a good idea in my mind (https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Artwork)
We do that every 4 years, following the Leap cycle and TW/Leap wallpapers are meant to be complementary. If there was a solid enough wallpaper proposal before then, I would probably reconsider ;) LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
- run regular onboarding events for new people interested to help
I think this is especially important. Some of the open source projects that I follow do a terrible job with this. I would be interested in helping. These can be online or in-person. Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Jason, On 12/30/19 4:38 PM, Jason Evans wrote:
I think this is especially important. Some of the open source projects that I follow do a terrible job with this. I would be interested in helping. These can be online or in-person.
In-person on-boarding sessions can be organized during the openSUSE conference and summits. Regards, Ish Sookun -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 30. Dezember 2019, 15:00:47 CET schrieb Ish Sookun:
In-person on-boarding sessions can be organized during the openSUSE conference and summits.
Yes, but I'd like to see them happen more often similar to sprints at KDE. There are companies around that offer their office rooms and infrastructure, as well as schools, universities etc. Often it's even free (gratis) as they want to support community work. Regards, vinz.
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 6:38 AM Vinzenz Vietzke <vinz@vinzv.de> wrote:
Am Montag, 30. Dezember 2019, 15:00:47 CET schrieb Ish Sookun:
In-person on-boarding sessions can be organized during the openSUSE conference and summits.
Yes, but I'd like to see them happen more often similar to sprints at KDE. There are companies around that offer their office rooms and infrastructure, as well as schools, universities etc. Often it's even free (gratis) as they want to support community work.
Regards, vinz.
Hi Vinz, Count me in in this initiative. I believe many people already did these "marketing" activities but maybe in un-coordinated way. Me and Indonesia community doing this since a while ago. We even maintain our web/blog presence [1], twitter account [2], telegram group [3], mirror repositories [4,5], and countless community gathering. Of course we did that in our free time, thanks to friends, sponsors and openSUSE. [1] https://opensuse.id [2] @openSUSEID [3] t.me/openSUSE_ID [4] https://repo.opensuse.id [5] https://twrepo.opensuse.id Regards, -- Edwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Greetings, I am all about reviving the marketing team. I have made it a point to promote openSUSE in any of the circles I interact with other users. For instance, as part of the DestinationLinux.network, and Bigdaddylinux.com groups. I am also in a podcast called DLN Extend where I do promote openSUSE on a regular basis. There are a lot of pains you do not have when running openSUSE that I often hear from users on other Linux distros. I am MORE than happy to push any marketing messages or the new exciting tech that openSUSE has to offer. Respectfully, -Nathan Wolf (CubicleNate) On Monday, 30 December 2019 18:38:20 EST Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
Am Montag, 30. Dezember 2019, 15:00:47 CET schrieb Ish Sookun:
In-person on-boarding sessions can be organized during the openSUSE conference and summits.
Yes, but I'd like to see them happen more often similar to sprints at KDE. There are companies around that offer their office rooms and infrastructure, as well as schools, universities etc. Often it's even free (gratis) as they want to support community work.
Regards, vinz.
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Hi Vinzenz, Nice initiative, you can count me in. I do not have artistic skills myself, but as president of a French openSUSE users association which is reasonably active, I will be happy to use this association as a local relay in France (that is what we are currently doing anyway through our forum, blog and Twitter accounts). I can help with the following points: - contacting people to "interview" them - write reports about the booth the association is holding ( 2 or 3 per year so far) and / or publish reports written by other local teams - translate marketing material (in French) Regards, PS: this message may have been received twice as the first try seems to have been discarded by the mailing-list daemon. Sorry for any inconvenience. -- 'When there is no more room at school, the dumb will walk the Earth.' Sébastien 'sogal' Poher -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, thanks all for the interest you showed and your feedback! I'm really happy to see people wanting to help. *Meeting* I condensed the points you mentioned into a rough agenda. If I missed something please feel free to add it. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_meeting For meeting date and time I'd place it at Jan. 8th at 19:00h UTC unless someone objects within the next days. If this does not work out for you please let me know so we can find a solution. You can check your local time here: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20200108T19 *Communication* Besides the already existing IRC channel we now have - Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#opensuse-marketing:matrix.org - Discord: https://discord.gg/opensuse - Telegram: https://t.me/openSUSE_Marketing They all are already bridged together. For the IRC channel I am still trying to get bridging done. So you can join any of it and will see all conversations going on anywhere else. Feel free to drop by there and have chat! Regards, vinz.
Thank you Vinz. I'll be there! v/r Doug On 1/3/20 1:55 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
Hi,
thanks all for the interest you showed and your feedback! I'm really happy to see people wanting to help.
*Meeting*
I condensed the points you mentioned into a rough agenda. If I missed something please feel free to add it. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_meeting
For meeting date and time I'd place it at Jan. 8th at 19:00h UTC unless someone objects within the next days. If this does not work out for you please let me know so we can find a solution. You can check your local time here: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20200108T19
*Communication*
Besides the already existing IRC channel we now have - Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#opensuse-marketing:matrix.org - Discord: https://discord.gg/opensuse - Telegram: https://t.me/openSUSE_Marketing
They all are already bridged together. For the IRC channel I am still trying to get bridging done. So you can join any of it and will see all conversations going on anywhere else. Feel free to drop by there and have chat!
Regards, vinz.
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Hi Vinz, that is super cool! I'll take part. Could you maybe quickly explain what platform we're using? Simply in the chat rooms? Greetings! SImon Am 07.01.20 um 13:19 schrieb ddemaio:
Thank you Vinz. I'll be there! v/r Doug
On 1/3/20 1:55 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote:
Hi,
thanks all for the interest you showed and your feedback! I'm really happy to see people wanting to help.
*Meeting*
I condensed the points you mentioned into a rough agenda. If I missed something please feel free to add it. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_meeting
For meeting date and time I'd place it at Jan. 8th at 19:00h UTC unless someone objects within the next days. If this does not work out for you please let me know so we can find a solution. You can check your local time here: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20200108T19
*Communication*
Besides the already existing IRC channel we now have - Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#opensuse-marketing:matrix.org - Discord: https://discord.gg/opensuse - Telegram: https://t.me/openSUSE_Marketing
They all are already bridged together. For the IRC channel I am still trying to get bridging done. So you can join any of it and will see all conversations going on anywhere else. Feel free to drop by there and have chat!
Regards, vinz.
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participants (16)
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Alex Christoph Bihlmaier -
Axel Braun -
Bernd Ritter -
Christian Imhorst -
ddemaio -
Ish Sookun -
Jason Evans -
Maik Wagner -
medwinz -
Nathan Wolf -
Sarah Julia Kriesch -
Simon Heimbach -
Simon Lees -
Sogal -
Stasiek Michalski -
Vinzenz Vietzke