Re: [opensuse-project] Goodbye Board
On 2/28/20 12:54 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
I second that. I think we are owed an explanation.
I remember a kerfuffle some time ago where members requested that board meeting notes be made public. The response (I'm paraphrasing) was that sometimes the board deals with personal matters regarding members of the community and it would not be share those details publicly. We are all rational adults for the most part and we understand that. However that doesn't mean that transparency should be thrown out of the window. If something happened that could potentially affect the community, then it would be best to be open about it. If something happened that caused multiple board members to leave then there should be a statement about it even if it means omitting personal information about anyone involved. In a few months there will be another election of board members. One question that should be posed for anyone running again should be "what is your opinion about an open and transparent board and would you work towards this goal?" Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 16:40, Jason Evans <jsevans@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 2/28/20 12:54 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
I second that. I think we are owed an explanation.
I remember a kerfuffle some time ago where members requested that board meeting notes be made public. The response (I'm paraphrasing) was that sometimes the board deals with personal matters regarding members of the community and it would not be share those details publicly. We are all rational adults for the most part and we understand that. However that doesn't mean that transparency should be thrown out of the window. If something happened that could potentially affect the community, then it would be best to be open about it. If something happened that caused multiple board members to leave then there should be a statement about it even if it means omitting personal information about anyone involved.
In a few months there will be another election of board members. One question that should be posed for anyone running again should be "what is your opinion about an open and transparent board and would you work towards this goal?"
This has already been asked almost every term, and multiple people within the board were absolutely for it for multiple years, but it seems it's too hard to change the board from inside the board LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 28 februari 2020 18:09:27 CET schreef Stasiek Michalski:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 16:40, Jason Evans <jsevans@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 2/28/20 12:54 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
I second that. I think we are owed an explanation.
I remember a kerfuffle some time ago where members requested that board meeting notes be made public. The response (I'm paraphrasing) was that sometimes the board deals with personal matters regarding members of the community and it would not be share those details publicly. We are all rational adults for the most part and we understand that. However that doesn't mean that transparency should be thrown out of the window. If something happened that could potentially affect the community, then it would be best to be open about it. If something happened that caused multiple board members to leave then there should be a statement about it even if it means omitting personal information about anyone involved.
In a few months there will be another election of board members. One question that should be posed for anyone running again should be "what is your opinion about an open and transparent board and would you work towards this goal?"
This has already been asked almost every term, and multiple people within the board were absolutely for it for multiple years, but it seems it's too hard to change the board from inside the board
LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_meetings
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On 28. Feb 2020, at 18:09, Stasiek Michalski <hellcp@opensuse.org> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 16:40, Jason Evans <jsevans@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 2/28/20 12:54 PM, Per Jessen wrote: I second that. I think we are owed an explanation. I remember a kerfuffle some time ago where members requested that board meeting notes be made public. The response (I'm paraphrasing) was that sometimes the board deals with personal matters regarding members of the community and it would not be share those details publicly. We are all rational adults for the most part and we understand that. However that doesn't mean that transparency should be thrown out of the window. If something happened that could potentially affect the community, then it would be best to be open about it. If something happened that caused multiple board members to leave then there should be a statement about it even if it means omitting personal information about anyone involved. In a few months there will be another election of board members. One question that should be posed for anyone running again should be "what is your opinion about an open and transparent board and would you work towards this goal?"
This has already been asked almost every term, and multiple people within the board were absolutely for it for multiple years, but it seems it's too hard to change the board from inside the board
LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world
Two thoughts, one serious, one less so Serious point first: One of the Boards primary roles is dealing with interpersonal issues. Such issues need to be dealt with in great privacy for all involved and the Project as a whole and many individuals would be worse off without the kind of discretion that is clearly on display from Gerald and called for by Christian. I think that is to be applauded and not seen as a negative. Less serious point- maybe you’d have a better idea of whether or not the Board can be changed from within if you ran for the position like many contributors (myself included) asked you to?
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On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 18:34, Richard Brown <rbrown@suse.de> wrote:
Less serious point- maybe you’d have a better idea of whether or not the Board can be changed from within if you ran for the position like many contributors (myself included) asked you to?
if the board behaves like this every year, I might consider it for the drama, otherwise, not interested LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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