openSUSE Board minutes 2024-06-03
Sorry about the delay, but here they are... = Board Meeting Monday 2024-06-03 14:00 CEST = * Present: Doug, Gerald, Neal, Patrick, Shawn, Simon * Excused: * Missed: * Minutes: Neal * Guests: Georg == Organizational == * Minutes of last meeting (on Wiki)? * Meeting times before openSUSE Conference == Update the meeting bot for the mailing list == * Currently its still sending out the wrong time, * Can be done following https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_best_practices#Meeting_reminder/invit... * AI: Gerald to follow up * Pull request with change created: https://github.com/openSUSE/mail-reminder/pulls == Trademark Issue == * AI: Gerald to follow up == GDPR Update == Doug notes that for those having issues with "other" on onetrust form in some browsers has been fixed. Suggests implementing a workflow involving GDPR officers to ensure user identity deletion via a p.o.o. ticketing system. The tool facilitates validations, ensuring compliance and proper handling of privacy-related processes. == Proposal for Permanent Records of Banned Persons == * Establish permanent records for banned individuals to ensure consistency and transparency in enforcement. * Current decisions rely on collective memory, which is unreliable over time. * Records should be maintained and accessible to moderators, the board and membership officials. == Proposal for openSUSE Ban Process Regulation == * The openSUSE community upholds a strict code of conduct to ensure a respectful and productive environment. Bans may be issued for violations, escalating from temporary bans to permanent and lifetime bans. ** Temporary Bans: Issued for initial or minor infractions, typically lasting up to three months. ** Six-Month Bans: Serve as a clear warning that any further violations will result in a permanent ban. ** Permanent Bans: Imposed for repeated or severe violations. Individuals may apply for reinstatement after one year; however, reinstatement is not guaranteed and subject to Board review. ** Lifetime Bans: Reserved for the most egregious violations, including but not limited to harassment, ban evasion, and misuse of resources. Lifetime bans are irrevocable. * What about Revoking memberships? * What about Revoking IDP Account access? If so, how does it affect people who need it for their job? * A final warning may precede a permanent ban, making clear the consequences of further infractions. All bans are documented to ensure transparency and consistency in enforcement. -- Neal Gompa (ID: Pharaoh_Atem)
Hello, Am Montag, 22. Juli 2024, 16:37:01 MESZ schrieb Neal Gompa:
== Proposal for openSUSE Ban Process Regulation == [...] * What about Revoking memberships?
If someone gets banned permanently, I don't see how that person should stay an openSUSE Member.
* What about Revoking IDP Account access? If so, how does it affect people who need it for their job?
I can imagine why that question came up, but if someone violated the Code of Conduct hard and often enough to get banned, not revoking the IDP account just "because that person needs it for their work" would be more than strange - and unfair to people who "only" contribute to openSUSE in their free time, and would get locked out from IDP. Now someone could of course say "but it will cause them trouble in their job". Yes, of course it does [1] - and they should have thought about it before repeatedly violating the Code of Conduct. Luckily it's easy to avoid getting banned and/or getting the IDP account revoked (with all the trouble it can cause you) - just behave ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] What would such a mail be without a car comparison? Here we go: If the police stops a drunk truck driver, I'm quite sure they won't spare his/her driving license because it's needed for his/her job. And if the driver argues with his/her job, the answer will be "So you knew, and nevertheless drove while drunk? Your fault." --
I'd really appreciate some help taking screenshots of openSUSE 13.1. I guess non-GUI screenshots wouldn't be overly interesting? :-) Run it in an xterm, that should fix any potential "non-GUI" issue! :p [>> Jos Poortvliet, > Per Jessen and Jan Engelhardt in opensuse-project]
Op zondag 28 juli 2024 21:09:04 CEST schreef Christian Boltz:
Hello,
Am Montag, 22. Juli 2024, 16:37:01 MESZ schrieb Neal Gompa:
== Proposal for openSUSE Ban Process Regulation ==
[...]
* What about Revoking memberships?
If someone gets banned permanently, I don't see how that person should stay an openSUSE Member.
* What about Revoking IDP Account access? If so, how does it affect
people who need it for their job?
I can imagine why that question came up, but if someone violated the Code of Conduct hard and often enough to get banned, not revoking the IDP account just "because that person needs it for their work" would be more than strange - and unfair to people who "only" contribute to
Now someone could of course say "but it will cause them trouble in their job". Yes, of course it does [1] - and they should have thought about it before repeatedly violating the Code of Conduct.
Luckily it's easy to avoid getting banned and/or getting the IDP account revoked (with all the trouble it can cause you) - just behave ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
[1] What would such a mail be without a car comparison? Here we go: If the police stops a drunk truck driver, I'm quite sure they won't spare his/her driving license because it's needed for his/her job. And if the driver argues with his/her job, the answer will be "So you knew, and nevertheless drove while drunk? Your fault."
I'd really appreciate some help taking screenshots of openSUSE 13.1.
I guess non-GUI screenshots wouldn't be overly interesting? :-)
Run it in an xterm, that should fix any potential "non-GUI" issue! :p [>> Jos Poortvliet, > Per Jessen and Jan Engelhardt in opensuse-project] Thanks, Christian, for this well writen reponse. I agree 100% with your stances here.
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
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