[opensuse-project] Re: openSUSE 101 - SUSE != openSUSE
(Cross-posting to opensuse-project ... Though I expect a new thread will be started here instead of continuing the old ones.) On 2018-02-28, Liam Proven <lproven@suse.com> wrote:
Look at this webpage:
It's a nice, smart-looking page. It's got the SUSE logo on it. It has the same corporate design as the rest of the SUSE site.
It doesn't have the SUSE logo
Look at the top left.
See that chameleon logo?
Now look at https://www.suse.com/
Look at the top left.
Same logo. Same chameleon. The only difference is an extra word, the same extra word as was used by DEC in VMS versus OpenVMS, or in Caldera OpenLinux, or in https://www.open-xchange.com/ and lots of other places.
It's not actually the same, the chameleon logo is different than the SUSE one (it's changed quite a lot over time -- look at the feet and height for instance). It also doesn't include the tagline, and the colour palette is different. (Of course, this is pure pedantry.) All of that being said, I do agree that if all you didn't ask anyone and just looked at the name of the project and logo you might get that impression. And that is something that should be fixed -- with the caveat that badging everything with "this is not a SUSE product" is pretty extreme and not really rational. Someone who is a non-SUSE openSUSE contributor probably wouldn't appreciate having their work stamped with that label because "openSUSE is a confusing name". Not to mention that "this is not a SUSE product" would be an accurate label for *every* project not listed in <https://www.suse.com/products/>.
But this argument also seems quite odd to me -- every Tom, Dick, and Harry uses Bootstrap for their websites but you don't instantly assume that every startup is a Twitter product.
To be honest, I have never even heard of it.
If you look at <https://getbootstrap.com/> I guarantee you'll start to notice that a lot of websites use it (and it looks like Twitter -- that's the point).
The list of products sold by SUSE is available here at <https://www.suse.com/products/>.
OpenSUSE is not sold. So why would it be there?
Because if it's not on the list of *products* on the *SUSE* website, how can it be a *SUSE product*? I legitimately don't understand how this particular part is confusing (I understand some of the other confusion, but not this part). -- Aleksa Sarai Senior Software Engineer (Containers) SUSE Linux GmbH <https://www.cyphar.com/>
Aleksa Sarai wrote:
(Cross-posting to opensuse-project ... Though I expect a new thread will be started here instead of continuing the old ones.)
On 2018-02-28, Liam Proven <lproven@suse.com> wrote:
Look at this webpage:
It's a nice, smart-looking page. It's got the SUSE logo on it. It has the same corporate design as the rest of the SUSE site.
It doesn't have the SUSE logo
Look at the top left.
See that chameleon logo?
Now look at https://www.suse.com/
Look at the top left.
Same logo. Same chameleon. The only difference is an extra word, the same extra word as was used by DEC in VMS versus OpenVMS, or in Caldera OpenLinux, or in https://www.open-xchange.com/ and lots of other places.
It's not actually the same, the chameleon logo is different than the SUSE one (it's changed quite a lot over time -- look at the feet and height for instance). It also doesn't include the tagline, and the colour palette is different. (Of course, this is pure pedantry.)
All of that being said, I do agree that if all you didn't ask anyone and just looked at the name of the project and logo you might get that impression. And that is something that should be fixed -- with the caveat that badging everything with "this is not a SUSE product" is pretty extreme and not really rational. Someone who is a non-SUSE openSUSE contributor probably wouldn't appreciate having their work stamped with that label because "openSUSE is a confusing name". Not to mention that "this is not a SUSE product" would be an accurate label for *every* project not listed in <https://www.suse.com/products/>.
There's nothing wrong with the name, except it does conjure up assumptions and ideas about the relationship. At least to the uninitiated. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-2.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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