Andreas Jaeger wrote:
SuSE's great engineering...!
That's what I'm talking about. This is what, I for one, really like
about suse. It is really good. Solid and tight. And literally packed
full of almost anything you could want or think of. If it ain't in
there, download it or make it yourself. It ain't perfect, but it's dang
good. I"m not so sure about the other guys good marketing (I have yet to
get ubuntu to boot on my office machine, 3 versions later). I mean, suse
really looks good to me. It took quite a while, but I find among many
windows boxes, I really like using suse with kde. Its good. Has its
quirks, but most do. It just took a while to get used to. I truly like
it. (Haven't seen the new menus others are complaining about. But if its
kde I'm sure you can change it in a snap). One of the first things I got
used to very quickly was just everyday surfing. Firefox is good, so is
Opera, and Konqueror but I'm not used to it on the web.(Konqueror does
do one heck of an ftp download). And with the piece of mind of a much
reduced risk of being effected by the mass of rot there is out there.
Windows guys, can you say safe?
Many other things start to stand out once you get the feel of it. It is
different. Installing apps, whoa! You mean you can't just double-click
it? What kind of deal is this? But for a newbie that's probably good.
They can't change too many things at first and screw stuff up. It is
powerful machinery. As you learn it, it gets easier. And as an added
bonus you get to learn much more about computers in general than you
ever knew about. Even if you think you know something about computers. I
am of course talking about coming from windows here, although you can
learn here wherever you come from.
I was thinking about Balmer's comments at the Professional Association
for SQL Server conference. At first I could not believe that. I didn't
need to read upcoming news stories to see that that was a double slap in
the face. The gaul of those people, I was thinking. I mean, do they
continually spit out all this goop that they actually believe it, or
more, that they are so used to spitting out all of this stuff about
their actual software (how well its built, safe, secure, blah blah blah)
that they just are really used to doing that. Spewing. But now I think
that they actually really don't care much. They just throw this
bullshite out there just because. Bust because they can. And just for
the fun of it. They don't care one way or another. They throw it out
there, and if they get the reaction they wanted, so much the better. I
mean with all of this stuff out here in the lists of all the angry
discussions, the fracturing of some of our community. If they beat us on
that, they will say that was easy. But if we stay our course (with
upcoming changes big and small; thats what this community is best at.
Change), well then - they will have to compete on technology, not fud,
mud, or drud.
One thing that was made clear is that they intend to compete. Compete,
compete, compete. Sha.
Thats why I like suse. It is great engineering! The base is solid, the
trimmings are nice, the distro is complete, best in breed configuration,
and leading edge. What more could you ask for? Truly? That's why 'they'
picked Novell. Suse is good. What an endorsement. Or what a threat. Who
cares? Lets just do what we do. Let the people at novell who do the
selling, sell. I don't know you guys, but knock yourselves out! I'm
looking for a good, long term growth, stock to buy. Actually more than
one, but that's another story :) Someone here said that that's what we
wanted novell to do, make it commercial. Make it a commercial success.
Let help them. For better or worse, we're here now. Lets get it on. I'm
no developer TSTL. But is use it, and tweak it a bit. And tried
installing gnome to check that out, and i started a server with email
and web services, then i replaced it with a better server, only set up
better. PIII. Other than slow graphics, that thing humms, and is as
steady as a rock in the rain. Never stutters. At least not so far.
Astounding what's in there. Truly.
Well, sorry for the length. I just wanted to say that as long as Andreas
and his group is hyped, i'm with him. I'll upgrade when I'm convinced,
as before. Till then, there is no reason to change a thing. If suse
dorks, well I'll change then. At this point I don't intend to. As long
as it keeps getting better, I'm a happy man. And I'll go on doing my
meager part of merely enjoying the use of it. I'm looking forward to
10.2. If you are a windows user, how long has it been since you've set
down at your computer, and knew exactly where it was at, what it was
doing, not worrying for an instant that is wasn't doing exactly the same
thing was doing 6 months ago. Gives me peace of mind. 'Works great /
more secure'. Sounds like a beer commercial.
Anyway, I've been in suse since 8.2. Good issue, but many great advances
since then as well. I think that is why this news has hit some of us so
hard. We know how good suse is, esp compared to others distros. We just
don't want to see this great technology be lead by its owners (current
or otherwise) to be less that its potential. I for one am staying with
it. To me the upside of what suse can be is worth more to me than the
cost of changing at this point. There is something special with suse and
its community. Somehow it came to be the best, but without the most hype
or press, to say the least. There is something special in that.
I'm with Andreas and this community.
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