On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Sascha 'saigkill' Manns <samannsml(a)directbox.com> wrote: This is a great idea. The other area is I have answered an unknown amount of questions pertaining to video drivers, xorg, how to set display up on all desktops used by SUSE. If one Googles this there are so many different variations a new user becomes lost. I have actually tried the ones suggested on OpenSUSE and while some worked, others did not. I decided to start with Intel video drivers for this seems to be lacking by both xorg and OpenSUSE and Intel's description on how to get this up and running on Linux is a new users nightmare. I realize the drivers are outside of OpenSUSE and come from the manufacturers but somehow, somewhere we must come together with an easier way of getting all this to work. The documentation really lacks for a new user in a way they would comprehend and understand. I realize that a user with knowledge of Linux could understand and most likely not have a problem with understanding what opening a terminal means, going to root, etc but to a new user for one, would be, what terminal, how do I even find the terminal, what is a path, a cd (or why do I get no such directory). It seems who ever writes the documentation thinks that everyone installing or setting up OpenSUSE knows the Linux commands or structure. The other problem I see is if a person does create documentation that even a new user can understand they get criticized by the others. The mentality of some Linux users is beyond me as they seem to think that everyone should be a geek or should understand everything out of the box. As much as I do not like Ubuntu they do have the ease of use down as far as a new user installing it. Even they do have faults like their root configurations and other minor flaws but to attract new users we must have documentation that they can read and understand. As much as I hate to say this Linux has the worst documentation I have ever seen in computing. I have read computer forensic software documentation that is easier to understand then some of the Linux ones. Snapshots are great but only if it is documented as to what it actually means and what to do. I ordered the boxed edition of 11.1 which comes with manuals and I plan to create something for new users and use a step by step process by category (with explanation). Basically the installation and set up first, then later add on to it to explain certain areas of OpenSUSE. I am mainly after showing the new user what and how and know I will probably be ridiculed by the advanced user. The main complaints I receive in the OpenSUSE.us forum is the lack of documentation that a new user can understand. PeterPac www.InNetInvestigations-Forensic.com SuSE 10.2/SuSE 10.3/TriStar/Apache SuSE 11.1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org