[opensuse-project] WTF to do with the Votes
Hi guys, before that whole discussions manages to get even more pointless can we please simply agree that: 1. The poll is open until the end (naturally) 2. Every voter has the right & option to change his / her votes until the poll is closed. This way it is fair - IMHO - and the whole pointless argumentation is void. <snip countless reasons why this is fair just to spare you the spam /> regards, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Le 17/01/2011 11:46, Stephan Kleine a écrit :
2. Every voter has the right & option to change his / her votes until the poll is closed.
as said before, it's not possible, because the content of the vote is not stored. And it don't have to be stored, because nobody have to know what your vote is. so nobody can know how one voted and the vote can't be reverted. We can stop the vote and restart it from the beginning, but It's probably not worth in the present situation. I insist to say that even if a candidate resign, the votes for him *are* significant. I even would be glad if it was possible to vote for a non candidate member. In other situations I several times have seen a non candidate elected and accepting the result, and making a good work, specially when a group don't work well and volunteers are scarce. anyway, we may have to restart this discussion *after* the vote, in order to know for the next time... jdd NB: by the way, votes do have ususally the option of blank vote and knowing if this vote is significant is widely discussed and challenged. we could add this option to a future ballot, for example to show opposition to the way the vote is done or to all the candidate, -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
let us wait the result and decide then... see what is the final decision of nelson... if it turns out that the number of votes for him have any influence on the final result... eg if he gets a board seat and he still does not want it we can rerun the vote... just my opinion. Alin On 17 January 2011 10:58, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Le 17/01/2011 11:46, Stephan Kleine a écrit :
2. Every voter has the right & option to change his / her votes until the poll is closed.
as said before, it's not possible, because the content of the vote is not stored. And it don't have to be stored, because nobody have to know what your vote is.
so nobody can know how one voted and the vote can't be reverted. We can stop the vote and restart it from the beginning, but It's probably not worth in the present situation.
I insist to say that even if a candidate resign, the votes for him *are* significant.
I even would be glad if it was possible to vote for a non candidate member. In other situations I several times have seen a non candidate elected and accepting the result, and making a good work, specially when a group don't work well and volunteers are scarce.
anyway, we may have to restart this discussion *after* the vote, in order to know for the next time...
jdd NB: by the way, votes do have ususally the option of blank vote and knowing if this vote is significant is widely discussed and challenged. we could add this option to a future ballot, for example to show opposition to the way the vote is done or to all the candidate,
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On Monday January 17 2011 12:06:15 Alin Marin Elena wrote:
let us wait the result and decide then... see what is the final decision of nelson... if it turns out that the number of votes for him have any influence on the final result... eg if he gets a board seat and he still does not want it we can rerun the vote... just my opinion.
nelson already said that he is still running. otoh jdd has a point with anonymous votes which is missed.
On 17 January 2011 10:58, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Le 17/01/2011 11:46, Stephan Kleine a écrit :
2. Every voter has the right & option to change his / her votes until the poll is closed.
as said before, it's not possible, because the content of the vote is not stored. And it don't have to be stored, because nobody have to know what your vote is.
so nobody can know how one voted and the vote can't be reverted. We can stop the vote and restart it from the beginning, but It's probably not worth in the present situation.
I insist to say that even if a candidate resign, the votes for him *are* significant.
I even would be glad if it was possible to vote for a non candidate member. In other situations I several times have seen a non candidate elected and accepting the result, and making a good work, specially when a group don't work well and volunteers are scarce.
anyway, we may have to restart this discussion *after* the vote, in order to know for the next time...
jdd NB: by the way, votes do have ususally the option of blank vote and knowing if this vote is significant is widely discussed and challenged. we could add this option to a future ballot, for example to show opposition to the way the vote is done or to all the candidate,
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Am Montag, 17. Januar 2011, 11:58:20 schrieb jdd:
I even would be glad if it was possible to vote for a non candidate member. In other situations I several times have seen a non candidate elected and accepting the result, and making a good work, specially when a group don't work well and volunteers are scarce.
The current election guidelines state that members can be nominated by others and have to agree to the nomination, I find this sufficient.
anyway, we may have to restart this discussion *after* the vote, in order to know for the next time...
jdd NB: by the way, votes do have ususally the option of blank vote and knowing if this vote is significant is widely discussed and challenged. we could add this option to a future ballot, for example to show opposition to the way the vote is done or to all the candidate,
Very good idea indeed. Regards, Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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