[opensuse-project] Mail server migration August 10
Dear all, next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers (mx[12].suse.de] and on to our two new mail servers "mx1.opensuse.org" and "mx2.opensuse.org", which I finished setting up beginning of July. Primary services affected are: - mailing lists - member aliases forwarding Apart from a minimal interruption at the time of switch-over, neither service should really see much effect of the migration, but you never know. The new setup includes spam- and virus filtering, selective greylisting, inbound and outbound TLS support, and an SRS daemon. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to write to me or to the Heroes list. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers
Looks like I need someone to help me out with the DNS updates - Insufficient access: Insufficient 'add' privilege to add the entry 'idnsname=opensuse.org.,cn=dns,dc=infra,dc=opensuse,dc=org'. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (22.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers
Looks like I need someone to help me out with the DNS updates -
Insufficient access: Insufficient 'add' privilege to add the entry 'idnsname=opensuse.org.,cn=dns,dc=infra,dc=opensuse,dc=org'.
Christian was able to do the MX updates for me, so since around 1200, we are now running on the two new mail-servers! I'll leave it for a couple of days, to see if there are any issues that need resolving, then we'll remove the fallback servers "mx[12].suse.de" -- Per Jessen, Zürich (28.1°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 10. August 2020, 13:35:57 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers
Looks like I need someone to help me out with the DNS updates -
Insufficient access: Insufficient 'add' privilege to add the entry 'idnsname=opensuse.org.,cn=dns,dc=infra,dc=opensuse,dc=org'.
Christian was able to do the MX updates for me, so since around 1200, we are now running on the two new mail-servers!
I'll leave it for a couple of days, to see if there are any issues that need resolving, then we'll remove the fallback servers "mx[12].suse.de"
Thank you, Per and Christian! Will there be a dedicated smtp-server for users of @o.o addresses in the future? Cheers Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Axel Braun wrote:
Am Montag, 10. August 2020, 13:35:57 CEST schrieb Per Jessen:
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers
Looks like I need someone to help me out with the DNS updates -
Insufficient access: Insufficient 'add' privilege to add the entry 'idnsname=opensuse.org.,cn=dns,dc=infra,dc=opensuse,dc=org'.
Christian was able to do the MX updates for me, so since around 1200, we are now running on the two new mail-servers!
I'll leave it for a couple of days, to see if there are any issues that need resolving, then we'll remove the fallback servers "mx[12].suse.de"
Thank you, Per and Christian!
Will there be a dedicated smtp-server for users of @o.o addresses in the future?
For outbound mails, you mean? It has crossed my mind once or twice, but I think it's a big can of worms. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (30.6°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers
Looks like I need someone to help me out with the DNS updates -
Insufficient access: Insufficient 'add' privilege to add the entry 'idnsname=opensuse.org.,cn=dns,dc=infra,dc=opensuse,dc=org'.
Christian was able to do the MX updates for me, so since around 1200, we are now running on the two new mail-servers!
I'll leave it for a couple of days, to see if there are any issues that need resolving, then we'll remove the fallback servers "mx[12].suse.de"
Brief update - the fallback servers were removed from DNS last week, and I have just now removed 'soft_bounce', which essentially completes the migration. If you experience any problems with the new setup, feel free to write to me or to admin@o.o to open a ticket. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (19.2°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Per, Am 17. August 2020 09:44:30 MESZ schrieb Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org>:
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers
Looks like I need someone to help me out with the DNS updates -
Insufficient access: Insufficient 'add' privilege to add the entry 'idnsname=opensuse.org.,cn=dns,dc=infra,dc=opensuse,dc=org'.
Christian was able to do the MX updates for me, so since around 1200, we are now running on the two new mail-servers!
I'll leave it for a couple of days, to see if there are any issues that need resolving, then we'll remove the fallback servers "mx[12].suse.de"
Brief update - the fallback servers were removed from DNS last week, and I have just now removed 'soft_bounce', which essentially completes the migration.
If you experience any problems with the new setup, feel free to write to me or to admin@o.o to open a ticket.
-- Per Jessen, Zürich (19.2°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks for all the hard and dedicated work you do for the project, since years. People like you run openSUSE, not people who are the loudest on the ML. Best regards, -- Thorsten Bro <tbro@opensuse.org> - Member of openSUSE Heroes - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes - Member of openSUSE VideoTeam - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Video
On 17/08/2020 10:05, Thorsten Bro wrote:
Hi Per,
Thanks for all the hard and dedicated work you do for the project, since years. People like you run openSUSE, not people who are the loudest on the ML.
Thanks Thorsten, much appreciated! -- Per Jessen, Zürich (25.4°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Quoting Thorsten Bro <opensuse@bro.li>:
Hi Per,
Am 17. August 2020 09:44:30 MESZ schrieb Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org>:
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers
Looks like I need someone to help me out with the DNS updates -
Insufficient access: Insufficient 'add' privilege to add the entry 'idnsname=opensuse.org.,cn=dns,dc=infra,dc=opensuse,dc=org'.
Christian was able to do the MX updates for me, so since around 1200, we are now running on the two new mail-servers!
I'll leave it for a couple of days, to see if there are any issues that need resolving, then we'll remove the fallback servers "mx[12].suse.de"
Brief update - the fallback servers were removed from DNS last week, and I have just now removed 'soft_bounce', which essentially completes the migration.
If you experience any problems with the new setup, feel free to write to me or to admin@o.o to open a ticket.
-- Per Jessen, Zürich (19.2°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Thanks for all the hard and dedicated work you do for the project, since years. People like you run openSUSE, not people who are the loudest on the ML.
Best regards,
+1 -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Andreas Vetter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
* Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> [08-05-20 12:45]:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers (mx[12].suse.de] and on to our two new mail servers "mx1.opensuse.org" and "mx2.opensuse.org", which I finished setting up beginning of July.
Primary services affected are:
- mailing lists - member aliases forwarding
Apart from a minimal interruption at the time of switch-over, neither service should really see much effect of the migration, but you never know.
The new setup includes spam- and virus filtering, selective greylisting, inbound and outbound TLS support, and an SRS daemon.
If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to write to me or to the Heroes list.
fwiw: on my ancient mail system using procmail and mutt, I have noticed no change in the sorting or delivery of mail from/to openSUSE lists. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/08/2020 13.42, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Per Jessen <per@opensuse.org> [08-05-20 12:45]:
Dear all,
next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers (mx[12].suse.de] and on to our two new mail servers "mx1.opensuse.org" and "mx2.opensuse.org", which I finished setting up beginning of July.
Primary services affected are:
- mailing lists - member aliases forwarding
Apart from a minimal interruption at the time of switch-over, neither service should really see much effect of the migration, but you never know.
The new setup includes spam- and virus filtering, selective greylisting, inbound and outbound TLS support, and an SRS daemon.
If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to write to me or to the Heroes list.
fwiw: on my ancient mail system using procmail and mutt, I have noticed no change in the sorting or delivery of mail from/to openSUSE lists.
AFAIK the list server has not changed yet. It is the mail server which changed. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 17/08/2020 13.42, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
fwiw: on my ancient mail system using procmail and mutt, I have noticed no change in the sorting or delivery of mail from/to openSUSE lists.
Thanks for the feedback!
AFAIK the list server has not changed yet. It is the mail server which changed.
All incoming mail to our lists is also received by one of the two new mailservers. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (26.8°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/08/2020 16.59, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 17/08/2020 13.42, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
fwiw: on my ancient mail system using procmail and mutt, I have noticed no change in the sorting or delivery of mail from/to openSUSE lists.
Thanks for the feedback!
AFAIK the list server has not changed yet. It is the mail server which changed.
All incoming mail to our lists is also received by one of the two new mailservers.
Yes, but it is still mlmmj, not mailman. The list sorting is made on headers added by mlmmj :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Hi Sorry to be a bit off-topic, but I could not resist to express my sincere thanks to the openSUSE heroes. On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:59:50 +0200 Per Jessen wrote:
AFAIK the list server has not changed yet. It is the mail server which changed.
All incoming mail to our lists is also received by one of the two new mailservers.
I'm not sure if someone noticed, yet, but this was a very, very longstanding ToDo for the openSUSE heroes. And they managed it without any downtime or migration issue (hehe: so far ;-) This leaves SUSE taking care and supporting: * the hardware below the virtual machines (which are maintained completely by the openSUSE heroes) * the DNS registrar entries * the identity management system * Bugzilla, OBS and some (other) special developer resources While most other services are in the openSUSE heroes hand now: * DNS, Mail and internal infrastructure management * ALL "Community Services"[1] * 60% "Developer resources"[1] I like to take the opportunity to thank everyone involved in this migration of the public mail exchangers, especially: * Per Jessen (for driving this and doing the hard work) * Christian Boltz (for your support and help) * Stasiek Michalski (for your help and ongoing work on mailman3) ...and having a look at all the other services provided by the openSUSE heroes in a very professional manner - while doing all the work during their spare time on a voluntary base - I have to admit that I'm very proud to be part of such a great team! I know that there are still open requests in Bugzilla (~20) and in Progress[2] (~100) that need work and dedication - and I ask for your understanding that some things (like DNSSec, DKIM, GDPR stuff and so on) take a bit longer in the openSUSE heroes world. If you know how to fix it: feel invited to join the team... Regards, Lars -- [1]: have a lokk at the sections at https://status.opensuse.org/ [2]: https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-admin (not all issues are public there) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 21:42, Lars Vogdt <lars@linux-schulserver.de> wrote:
While most other services are in the openSUSE heroes hand now: * DNS, Mail and internal infrastructure management * ALL "Community Services"[1]
With the exception of paste I guess, which is still outside of our infrastructure, here people can help very directly to drive that migration, if they want to play around with broken attachment code in python 3 migration of postmodern-paste: https://github.com/postmodern-paste/postmodern-paste/pull/2 I don't have the time, and that's what is needed to debug this (or maybe I missed something obvious?)
* 60% "Developer resources"[1]
I think it's worth noting the last 20% might never be migrated, since it deals with SUSE internal data, and SUSE might be very reluctant to let it be community managed.
I like to take the opportunity to thank everyone involved in this migration of the public mail exchangers, especially: * Per Jessen (for driving this and doing the hard work) * Christian Boltz (for your support and help) * Stasiek Michalski (for your help and ongoing work on mailman3)
Eh, there will still be time to celebrate after we are actually migrated, which as opposed to mx migration, will require a moment of mailing lists freeze, we have a lot of mailing lists to redirect from old to new, after which we will have a few hours of importing the old archives (fun) The full archive import strategy is described here: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70018 LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Le 17/08/2020 à 21:42, Lars Vogdt a écrit :
...and having a look at all the other services provided by the openSUSE heroes in a very professional manner - while doing all the work during their spare time on a voluntary base - I have to admit that I'm very proud to be part of such a great team!
great thanks to them, they deserve the name of the team :-) jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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