[opensuse-project] Re: subscribing to mailinglists (was: ANNOUNCE: OBS gitorious.org => github.com move .... DONE!)
Sascha Peilicke wrote:
Which reminds again that mailinglist handling @opensuse is a PITA. In case of that list even the mailto subscribe links are missing on lists.opensuse.org. Don't we have anyone in the project who could write a web front end that saves us from the clumsy confirmation process for each and every list? cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 09:22 +0200, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Save us from the clumsy confirmation process but allow unsolicited subscription of anybody to the mailing list without confirmation? Err, please don't do that! Or at least then only if you're already logged in to connect.o.o and as such have a verified email address... then yes, it might make life a little bit easier for some users. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hey, On 20.10.2011 09:22, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Go for it :)
that saves us from the clumsy confirmation process for each and every list?
In all that clumsiness of the subscription process there is a meaning which is not too obvious: testing delivery. If your subscription request reaches the list software, the lists confirmation reaches you and your confirmation mail comes back to the list the software knows that delivery works. You wouldn't believe with how many delivery problems a system with nearly 40K users has to cope... If you mean like subscribe once and you are subscribed to all lists, we're already moving into that direction with allowing everyone to post to every list. It's just that some lists don't want that. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE http://www.hennevogel.de Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Of course validity of a mail address has to be confirmed once one way or another. Only once though. It doesn't make sense to require that process for every single list again though. Also, being subscribed to one list, e.g. opensuse-factory should be sufficient prove that delivery works :-)
That's another topic. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hey, On 20.10.2011 12:01, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
That would require major changes to the architecture of the mailing list manager. The lists are separated entities that don't know of each other. You should discuss this on the mlmmj mailinglist :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE http://www.hennevogel.de Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 09:22 +0200, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Save us from the clumsy confirmation process but allow unsolicited subscription of anybody to the mailing list without confirmation? Err, please don't do that! Or at least then only if you're already logged in to connect.o.o and as such have a verified email address... then yes, it might make life a little bit easier for some users. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hey, On 20.10.2011 09:22, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Go for it :)
that saves us from the clumsy confirmation process for each and every list?
In all that clumsiness of the subscription process there is a meaning which is not too obvious: testing delivery. If your subscription request reaches the list software, the lists confirmation reaches you and your confirmation mail comes back to the list the software knows that delivery works. You wouldn't believe with how many delivery problems a system with nearly 40K users has to cope... If you mean like subscribe once and you are subscribed to all lists, we're already moving into that direction with allowing everyone to post to every list. It's just that some lists don't want that. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE http://www.hennevogel.de Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Of course validity of a mail address has to be confirmed once one way or another. Only once though. It doesn't make sense to require that process for every single list again though. Also, being subscribed to one list, e.g. opensuse-factory should be sufficient prove that delivery works :-)
That's another topic. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Hey, On 20.10.2011 12:01, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
That would require major changes to the architecture of the mailing list manager. The lists are separated entities that don't know of each other. You should discuss this on the mlmmj mailinglist :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE http://www.hennevogel.de Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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Ludwig Nussel