[opensuse-project] Call for adoption and/or erase warning Bacula related package in Archiving:Backup
Since sometimes, bacula project has released two main major version. (7.0 and 7.2). Nobody has taken care of the packages available on obs Archiving:Backup [1]
Those packages have never been submitted to Factory, and from the last upstream announcement the project will deliver directly prebuild package for major distribution.
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using another tool called Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the software.
So if you're interested to take ownership of those, raise your hands now. I will let a grace period of one or two months before sending a delete request.
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Archiving:Backup/bacula https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Archiving:Backup/bacula-docs https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Archiving:Backup/bacula-regress
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On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using another tool called Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros (13.1, 13.2, 11.4), so that people that are still using it can phase it out? Then drop it in Leap, with perhaps a note on the release notes.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith))
On Sunday 25 October 2015 21.19:45 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using another tool called Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros (13.1, 13.2, 11.4), so that people that are still using it can phase it out? Then drop it in Leap, with perhaps a note on the release notes.
One day, I hope before I die, you will understand what your eyes are reading and more important, your finger will move away from the keyboard.
I found your reply particulary offensive, cause with a stupid tone you're trying to give me order.
The only thing I'm seeing here that need to be drop, is the kind of reply you made.
It's stated clearly in my complete message that Bacula was never published in any openSUSE version so try to explain me what the F... has to be with the release notes.
Please stop doing that now. remove the plug that connect you to internet, or just go away.
Sorry, but this time I'm done with my patience.
On 2015-10-31 08:52, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Sunday 25 October 2015 21.19:45 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using another tool called Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros (13.1, 13.2, 11.4), so that people that are still using it can phase it out? Then drop it in Leap, with perhaps a note on the release notes.
One day, I hope before I die, you will understand what your eyes are reading and more important, your finger will move away from the keyboard.
I found your reply particulary offensive, cause with a stupid tone you're trying to give me order.
Orders? Where do you see "orders"? Where do you see offense?
The only thing I'm seeing here that need to be drop, is the kind of reply you made.
Why?
I'm totally baffled.
It's stated clearly in my complete message that Bacula was never published in any openSUSE version so try to explain me what the F... has to be with the release notes.
Please stop doing that now. remove the plug that connect you to internet, or just go away.
Sorry, but this time I'm done with my patience.
Fuck?
Is that appropriate language?
What have you smoked today?
Why are you so offensive?
What have I done to you?
I just wrote a kind suggerence, that's all. If you can't or don't want to do it, or if I made an interpretation mistake, that's fine, but no need to be so aggressive to me. Or to anybody.
On Saturday 31 October 2015 11.37:31 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-31 08:52, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Sunday 25 October 2015 21.19:45 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using another tool called Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros (13.1, 13.2, 11.4), so that people that are still using it can phase it out? Then drop it in Leap, with perhaps a note on the release notes.
One day, I hope before I die, you will understand what your eyes are reading and more important, your finger will move away from the keyboard.
I found your reply particulary offensive, cause with a stupid tone you're trying to give me order.
Orders? Where do you see "orders"? Where do you see offense?
your "try to be polite words", doesn't remove the fact that you believe "I'm not enough educated how packaging and this project works" They also are just slap in my face, cause you just make noise with nothing useful. Like for example tried yourself to edit the release note, propose a changelog changes in the next bacula obs build etc.
Your words are a total disrespect of my free time work and contributions.
The only thing I'm seeing here that need to be drop, is the kind of reply you made.
Why?
See above, and get help for introspection.
I'm totally baffled.
Not enough to stay quite, it seems.
It's stated clearly in my complete message that Bacula was never published in any openSUSE version so try to explain me what the F... has to be with the release notes.
Please stop doing that now. remove the plug that connect you to internet, or just go away.
Sorry, but this time I'm done with my patience.
Fuck? Is that appropriate language?
Facts, which is quite rude too.
What have you smoked today?
Nothing else different that the other day
Why are you so offensive?
Why are you posting so dumb message, will this end a day, or shall I wait my next incarnation ?
What have I done to you?
I'm totally baffled
I just wrote a kind suggerence, that's all. If you can't or don't want to do it, or if I made an interpretation mistake, that's fine, but no need to be so aggressive to me. Or to anybody.
You should have, has it was always suggested by a number of people, read and understand what you see on the mailing list, and then weight twice your answer. Is what I'm sending is helping the project ?
If you have time to use this mailing list, at the pace you're using it, I guess you've plenty of time to help us fixing packages, make the wiki better, etc. Okay this will drive you to a complete shift in your behavior, starting really contributions got a trouble A, learn to report it on bugs.o.o, learn to work with main maintainer and upstream to reproduce and fix the problem, learn how to branch, fix, build, submit the solution back on obs, invest your time get real things done.
But sorry, I'm certainly just dreaming.
Or you want to surprise me and the community around?
On 2015-10-31 13:57, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Saturday 31 October 2015 11.37:31 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Or you want to surprise me and the community around?
Sigh... what a bagful of lies, disrespect to the rest of the community and users, and... no, I'm not going to bother to answer. I'll just put you on devnull.
Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using another tool called Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros (13.1, 13.2, 11.4)
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I feel that you need to be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
Regards
Martin
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On Saturday, 2015-10-31 at 11:15 +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote:
Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I feel that you need to be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen#Supported_distributions
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On Wednesday 04 of November 2015 15:53:01 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2015-10-31 at 11:15 +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote:
Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I feel that you need to be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-)
No, evergreen does not mean that it is supported as I understand it. Please stop spreading disinformations and please do not present your speculations/opinions as if they were facts. Also as several people, including me already told you several times, please stop telling other what they should and should not do.
Martin
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On 2015-11-04 16:07, Martin Pluskal wrote:
On Wednesday 04 of November 2015 15:53:01 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2015-10-31 at 11:15 +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote:
Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I feel that you need to be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-)
No, evergreen does not mean that it is supported as I understand it. Please stop spreading disinformations and please do not present your speculations/opinions as if they were facts.
Me and others understand it as supported. So, just agree that we disagree.
Also as several people, including me already told you several times, please stop telling other what they should and should not do.
I'm not telling anybody to do anything. Did I tell you to do anything above? I don't see it.
Please stop harassing me. :-/
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
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On 2015-11-04 16:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-11-04 16:07, Martin Pluskal wrote:
On Wednesday 04 of November 2015 15:53:01 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Me and others understand it as supported. So, just agree that we disagree.
To clarify: if you mean that the repository Archiving does not support 11.4, that is of course acceptable. It is an optional repo.
But that does not apply to the entire project; for instance, packman still includes an 11.4 directory (updated).
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On Wednesday, November 04, 2015 04:13:18 PM Carlos E. R. wrote:
Me and others understand it as supported.
Who is this "others" you always claim to represent? Can't they speak for themselves? Is there some secret society of openSUSE users who do not wish to be known and elected you to be their spokesman?
Please tell "them" to speak up next time they don't like something. Until then, spare a few minutes reading this[1].
Cheers
Juraj
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False-consensus_effect
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On 2015-11-04 16:44, Juraj Hura wrote:
On Wednesday, November 04, 2015 04:13:18 PM Carlos E. R. wrote:
Me and others understand it as supported.
Who is this "others" you always claim to represent? Can't they speak for themselves? Is there some secret society of openSUSE users who do not wish to be known and elected you to be their spokesman?
What, you doubt that Evergreen exists and that there is still some limited support for 11.4?
Well, you can check the Evergreen mail list and notice that on Nov 19th someone asked if an update of Flash was possible, and Wolfgang commented less than half an hour later that he was working on it.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Carlos E. R. carlos.e.r@opensuse.org wrote:
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On Saturday, 2015-10-31 at 11:15 +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote:
Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I feel that you need to be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen#Supported_distributions
False, more or less.
Read the link. Evergreen support of 11.4 ended months ago. I recall it was announced on the Evergreen list.
The comment "Still accepting contributed patches" is not the same as active Evergreen support. It just means a few egregious issues may still be addressed if someone cares enough to back port a fix, but don't count on the Evergreen team (of 2 people?) doing it.
Anyone that wants routine security updates needs to be at least on 13.1 as of now (or as of July 2015).
Greg
On 11/04/2015 05:12 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen#Supported_distributions
False, more or less.
Read the link. Evergreen support of 11.4 ended months ago. I recall it was announced on the Evergreen list.
Yes, that is so.
The comment "Still accepting contributed patches" is not the same as active Evergreen support. It just means a few egregious issues may still be addressed if someone cares enough to back port a fix, but don't count on the Evergreen team (of 2 people?) doing it.
Well, it is a bit weird. Most issues are getting patches, it seems. They could stop anytime, but patches are still appearing.
Anyone that wants routine security updates needs to be at least on 13.1 as of now (or as of July 2015).
Yes, of course.
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