[opensuse-project] Call for adoption and/or erase warning Bacula related package in Archiving:Backup
25 Oct
2015
25 Oct
'15
3:15 p.m.
Since sometimes, bacula project has released two main major version. (7.0 and 7.2).
Nobody has taken care of the packages available on obs Archiving:Backup [1]
Those packages have never been submitted to Factory, and from the last upstream
announcement
the project will deliver directly prebuild package for major distribution.
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using another tool called Bareos, and have no
more interest nor time to maintain the software.
So if you're interested to take ownership of those, raise your hands now.
I will let a grace period of one or two months before sending a delete request.
[1]
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Archiving:Backup/bacula
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Archiving:Backup/bacula-docs
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Archiving:Backup/bacula-regress
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25 Oct
25 Oct
9:19 p.m.
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On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using another
tool called
Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the
software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros
(13.1, 13.2, 11.4), so that people that are still using it can phase
it out? Then drop it in Leap, with perhaps a note on the release notes.
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31 Oct
31 Oct
8:52 a.m.
On Sunday 25 October 2015 21.19:45 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
One day, I hope before I die, you will understand what your eyes are reading
and more important, your finger will move away from the keyboard.
I found your reply particulary offensive, cause with a stupid tone you're trying to
give me order.
The only thing I'm seeing here that need to be drop, is the kind of reply you made.
It's stated clearly in my complete message that Bacula was never published in any
openSUSE version
so try to explain me what the F... has to be with the release notes.
Please stop doing that now. remove the plug that connect you to internet, or just go
away.
Sorry, but this time I'm done with my patience.
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Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using
another tool called
Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the
software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros
(13.1, 13.2, 11.4), so that people that are still using it can phase
it out? Then drop it in Leap, with perhaps a note on the release notes.
11:37 a.m.
On 2015-10-31 08:52, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Sunday 25 October 2015 21.19:45 Carlos E. R.
wrote:
Orders? Where do you see "orders"?
Where do you see offense?
On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
One day, I hope before I die, you will understand what your eyes are reading
and more important, your finger will move away from the keyboard.
I found your reply particulary offensive, cause with a stupid tone you're trying to
give me order. Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using
another tool called
Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the
software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros
(13.1, 13.2, 11.4), so that people that are still using it can phase
it out? Then drop it in Leap, with perhaps a note on the release notes.
The only thing I'm seeing here that need to be
drop, is the kind of reply you made.
Why?
I'm totally baffled.
It's stated clearly in my complete message that
Bacula was never published in any openSUSE version
so try to explain me what the F... has to be with the release notes.
Please stop doing that now. remove the plug that connect you to internet, or just go
away.
Sorry, but this time I'm done with my patience.
Fuck?
Is that appropriate language?
What have you smoked today?
Why are you so offensive?
What have I done to you?
I just wrote a kind suggerence, that's all. If you can't or don't want
to do it, or if I made an interpretation mistake, that's fine, but no
need to be so aggressive to me. Or to anybody.
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1:57 p.m.
On Saturday 31 October 2015 11.37:31 Carlos E. R. wrote:
See above, and get help for introspection.
Facts, which is quite rude too.
On 2015-10-31 08:52, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
your "try to be polite words", doesn't
remove the fact that you believe "I'm not enough educated
how packaging and this project works" They also are just slap in my face, cause you
just make
noise with nothing useful.
Like for example tried yourself to edit the release note, propose a changelog changes in
the
next bacula obs build etc.
Your words are a total disrespect of my free time work and contributions.
On Sunday 25 October 2015 21.19:45 Carlos E. R.
wrote:
Orders? Where do you see "orders"?
Where do you see offense? On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
One day, I hope before I die, you will understand what your eyes are reading
and more important, your finger will move away from the keyboard.
I found your reply particulary offensive, cause with a stupid tone you're trying to
give me order. Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using
another tool called
Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the
software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros
(13.1, 13.2, 11.4), so that people that are still using it can phase
it out? Then drop it in Leap, with perhaps a note on the release notes.
The only thing I'm seeing here that need to
be drop, is the kind of reply you made.
Why? I'm totally baffled.
Not enough to stay
quite, it seems.
It's
stated clearly in my complete message that Bacula was never published in any openSUSE
version
so try to explain me what the F... has to be with the release notes.
Please stop doing that now. remove the plug that connect you to internet, or just go
away.
Sorry, but this time I'm done with my patience.
Fuck?
Is that appropriate language? What have you smoked today?
Nothing else
different that the other day
Why are you so offensive?
Why are you posting so
dumb message, will this end a day, or shall I wait my next incarnation ?
What have I done to you?
I'm totally
baffled
I just wrote a kind suggerence, that's all. If you
can't or don't want
to do it, or if I made an interpretation mistake, that's fine, but no
need to be so aggressive to me. Or to anybody.
You should have, has it was always
suggested by a number of people, read and understand
what you see on the mailing list, and then weight twice your answer.
Is what I'm sending is helping the project ?
If you have time to use this mailing list, at the pace you're using it, I guess
you've plenty
of time to help us fixing packages, make the wiki better, etc.
Okay this will drive you to a complete shift in your behavior, starting really
contributions
got a trouble A, learn to report it on bugs.o.o, learn to work with main maintainer and
upstream
to reproduce and fix the problem, learn how to branch, fix, build, submit the solution
back on
obs, invest your time get real things done.
But sorry, I'm certainly just dreaming.
Or you want to surprise me and the community around?
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1 Nov
1 Nov
1:09 p.m.
On 2015-10-31 13:57, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Saturday 31 October 2015 11.37:31 Carlos E. R.
wrote:
Or you want to surprise me and the community around?
Sigh... what a bagful of lies, disrespect to the rest of the community
and users, and... no, I'm not going to bother to answer. I'll just put
you on devnull.
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31 Oct
31 Oct
11:15 a.m.
Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
On 2015-10-25 15:15, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I feel that you
need to
be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
Regards
Martin
1. https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:11.4
Moreover, since at least 3 years I'm using
another tool called
Bareos, and have no more interest nor time to maintain the
software.
May I suggest you freeze what is available in the released distros
(13.1, 13.2, 11.4)
4 Nov
4 Nov
3:53 p.m.
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On Saturday, 2015-10-31 at 11:15 +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote:
Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I
feel that you need to
be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen#Supported_distributions
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4:07 p.m.
On Wednesday 04 of November 2015 15:53:01 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2015-10-31 at 11:15 +0100, Martin Pluskal
wrote:
No, evergreen does not mean that it is supported
as I understand it. Please
stop spreading disinformations and please do not present your
speculations/opinions as if they were facts. Also as several people, including
me already told you several times, please stop telling other what they should
and should not do.
Martin
Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I feel that you need to
be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-)
4:13 p.m.
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On 2015-11-04 16:07, Martin Pluskal wrote:
On Wednesday 04 of November 2015 15:53:01 Carlos E. R.
wrote:
Me and others understand it as supported.
So, just agree that we disagree.
On Saturday, 2015-10-31 at 11:15 +0100, Martin
Pluskal wrote:
No, evergreen does not mean that it is supported
as I understand
it. Please stop spreading disinformations and please do not present
your speculations/opinions as if they were facts. Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well, I feel that
you need to be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-) Also as several people, including me already told you
several
times, please stop telling other what they should and should not
do.
I'm not telling anybody to do anything. Did I tell you to do anything
above? I don't see it.
Please stop harassing me. :-/
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On 2015-11-04 16:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-11-04 16:07, Martin Pluskal wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 of November 2015 15:53:01 Carlos E. R. wrote:
Me and others understand it as supported. So, just
agree that we
disagree.
To clarify: if you mean that the repository Archiving does not support
11.4, that is of course acceptable. It is an optional repo.
But that does not apply to the entire project; for instance, packman
still includes an 11.4 directory (updated).
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4:44 p.m.
On Wednesday, November 04, 2015 04:13:18 PM Carlos E. R. wrote:
Me and others understand it as supported.
Who is this "others" you always claim to represent? Can't they speak for
themselves? Is there some secret society of openSUSE users who do not wish to
be known and elected you to be their spokesman?
Please tell "them" to speak up next time they don't like something. Until
then, spare a few minutes reading this[1].
Cheers
Juraj
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False-consensus_effect
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On 2015-11-04 16:44, Juraj Hura wrote:
On Wednesday, November 04, 2015 04:13:18 PM Carlos E.
R. wrote:
What, you doubt that Evergreen exists and that there is still some
limited support for 11.4?
Well, you can check the Evergreen mail list and notice that on Nov
19th someone asked if an update of Flash was possible, and Wolfgang
commented less than half an hour later that he was working on it.
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Carlos E. R. <carlos.e.r(a)opensuse.org> wrote:
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On Saturday, 2015-10-31 at 11:15 +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote:
False, more or less.
Read the link. Evergreen support of 11.4 ended months ago. I recall
it was announced on the Evergreen list.
The comment "Still accepting contributed patches" is not the same as
active Evergreen support. It just means a few egregious issues may
still be addressed if someone cares enough to back port a fix, but
don't count on the Evergreen team (of 2 people?) doing it.
Anyone that wants routine security updates needs to be at least on
13.1 as of now (or as of July 2015).
Greg
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Dne 25.10.2015 v 21:19 Carlos E. R. napsal(a):
Since you mentioned it in other threads as well,
I feel that you need to
be reminded that 11.4 is not supported [1]
It is, somehow, by Evergreen :-)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen#Supported_distributions
8 Nov
8 Nov
3:44 a.m.
On 11/04/2015 05:12 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
Yes, that is so.
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Carlos E. R. <>
wrote:
It is,
somehow, by Evergreen :-)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Evergreen#Supported_distributions
False, more or less.
Read the link. Evergreen support of 11.4 ended months ago. I recall
it was announced on the Evergreen list. The comment "Still accepting contributed
patches" is not the same as
active Evergreen support. It just means a few egregious issues may
still be addressed if someone cares enough to back port a fix, but
don't count on the Evergreen team (of 2 people?) doing it.
Well, it is a bit weird. Most issues are getting patches, it seems. They
could stop anytime, but patches are still appearing.
Anyone that wants routine security updates needs to be
at least on
13.1 as of now (or as of July 2015).
Yes, of course.
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