-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/16/2015 12:26 PM, Françoise Wybrecht wrote:

PS (@Robert : I just read your "request for ideas for marketing" - thanks) /_ _//_Request for change mail

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Introduction I) II) One example III) Request for change (7) IV) Three more off-topic "Request for Change" V) openSUSE Guiding_principles conclusion

/__/_/Introduction/_/:/

I) If you (members and contributors) wish to be sure that *I do not that for myself*, I'm OK to renounce asking for TSP :

* forever * until december 2015 * until december 2016 * not necessary

_/II) OSC15 virtual /__/story/_ :

Let's take an openSUSE geek working in an middle size enterprise (he is not very rich, he has a job, a family ..). As he wants very much to go to OSC this year and *be one of the video team*, he asks his boss *to take hollidays* (which has to be done/asked in advance in many enterprises) and family too... Answer is *yes* ... So in january, he reserves his flight for The Haag (and of course pay it) - and he finds an hotel around 50 euros (which for him was not that expensive for a big town).

So he did fill the TSP form in january. I'll not tell you much more details ... blabla ... then he *(she ?)* was told that he can sleep in a dormitory (OK intention was great ... result was less great ... ok but had to be reminded here) or of course, he was free to pay his hotel ;-) ... so time passed ... he went back home, send all documents to the TSP, and ... have to wait a few weeks (from 8 to much more) to get his "support".

In the best case, he has to *find* the "TSP amount" from january to june for the flight (he found 20 to 50 %)

Nevermind, he is happy with it (thanks to TSP) ... he just wonders *how a student could come to OSC conference ?** * *end of the **story - */"Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental." /

/_III) "Request for Change" _/

From A to G + 3 - openSUSE contributors can agree, desagree or don't mind.

A) As a change, I would appreciate to see Ancor -***If he is OK AND SUSE is OK -* becoming the "TSP team leader" (with a monthly paid hours*to assure the quality of the TSP* - timing & communication) :

* agree * desagree * don't mind

B) As a change, I suggest to "add" two "optional resources supervisors" (for example 1 SUSE and 1 openSUSE, as Sarah and Sleepwalker, or any other, per, Frédéric, Christopher ...) - who could be asked to *give th**eir opinion in case the team is not sure *to take *the fair decision**.** * C ) As a change, I request TSP up to *100 % for **openSUSE volonteers**(*) working 100 % of the "event time" * (as the video team, as OSC organizers, as mini-summits, as booths (in any open event), as any openSUSE talk done (in an open event)

(*) I do not know if*SUSE employees *can be concerned by TSP or not - but as far as they do 100 % work on their holliday time - of course the are (logically) *integrated in this change request.*

D ) As a change, I request TSP up to *80 % for **openSUSE volonteers**working minimum 50 % of the "event time" * (as helping for booth, taking pictures, writing articles, welcoming ppl etc.)

E) As a change, I request TSP maximum *30 % for **openSUSE volonteers**who are coming just to see conferences, to share fun and to see friends* and do not have ministers salary - meaning : helping them (when without the TSP, they cannot come) (as helping for booth, taking pictures, writing articles, welcoming ppl etc.)

F ) As a change, I request**at least *one "brainstorming and**decisions meeting* " (or more) with the *concerned people (the board and/or TSP team + SUSE "financial de**cision makers - manager) *to :

* find solutions on "HOW can we *reduce* (+++) *the "reimbursement delay"* ? or evengive the money to ppl who cannot advance it (what about having a annual budget for openSUSE TSP ?)

* as any financial budget has a limit - would it be possible to *know the annual budget for TSP* and *"which events and actions are mostly appreciated by the sponsor SUSE & openSUSE teams* - seen as having a good impact (can be suggested as priorities for 2015 or 2016) = give as much informations as possible to volonteers wishing to help and act.

/_Annexe_ (for the mostly appreciated actions) :

- mini-summit Asia or Scale were OK (from what I saw, read or heard)

- are booth still encouraged ? (in openSource events) - are openSUSE talks encouraged?

- are hackweek or hack-week-ends encouraged (for example one team wishing to work 4 days on packaging ... / would the TSP pay travel and hotel ? Would it be possible in such cases to avoid the TSP and pay directly the hotel + travel for example.) _ __Comment _: if you give ideas and money to do that kind of things, I am sure that more and more contributors will DO and DO more (giving hours and hours to produce with FUN)./

G) As a change, I request to be a bit *more openMind *(Nobody is perfect, we are all different)*to listen to "project communication-organisation-suggestions*" on the project list -

IV) _Three more off-topic "Request for Change"_

1. As a change, I request the *«return of the geekos plushes» *in the boothboxes - as it was *a strong openSUSE community symbol of FUN - *

2. As a change, I request the *«return of openSUSE t-shirts»* in the boothboxes (*)

3. As a change, I request to be a bit more *informed on the project list about : what's happening with boothboxes, what is the «new-now process» , what is clear ? *(sorry if**I did not check all wiki pages to understand how it works now or why ...) * *

(*) OK it costs again money, for example for the tshirts, BUT : t-shirts are part of geeks «culture» (you can get Fosdem tshirts, Scale, Postgre & all other events ...) and they can be sold too => the money can be given to sponsor the "openSource global event organization" (FOSDEM, KDE, Gnome, Capitole du libre etc etc)

so it would be nice to see «2015 openSUSE tshirts» (OK I am not designer - not able to DO it - but able to tell that the marketing start with each of us when wearing an openSUSE t-shirt with a big SMILE) instead of seeing all the time the "openSUSE 4 years old t-shirts".

_/V) one openSUSE Guiding_principles/_

We value... ... respect for other persons and their contributions, for other opinions and beliefs. We listen to arguments and address problems in a constructive and open way. We believe that a diverse community based on mutual respect is the base for a creative and productive environment enabling the project to be truly successful. We don't tolerate social discrimination ...

We value... ... transparency of the decision making processes, transparency of communication and transparency of work and collaboration processes. That includes openly answering questions, providing all relevant information, and actively keeping all involved parties informed.

/_Conclusion_/ :

it had to be done to close my 5 questions mails (11.06.2015)

(= to do all I CAN DO to suggest TSP ameliorations for all openSUSE volonteers + ask for a bit more transparence/informations and a bit more tolerance).

I feel sorry if you don't understand my point of view

which is : technic is great, openSUSE distribution is great,

AND "human, organisation & communication" is great too.

Thanks if you contribuate to this request mail ;-) and sorry in advance for my english or possible other mistakes I can have done

have fun ... /Françoise/

It is fair enough to ask question and make proposals, but why now? Why throw yet another subject into the pile? Why could this not have waited for a month until some of the other topics that generate long mail threads have settled down? Considering that many people are consumed by long e-mail threads with many different important topics, why make it more difficult for those by starting yet another thread? Given the current state do you think there is sufficient bandwidth to have a reasonable detailed discussions about this topic at this point? I don't get it. Later, Robert - -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Public Cloud Architect LINUX rjschwei@suse.com IRC: robjo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVgF/fAAoJEE4FgL32d2Uk9QMH/RlHhka4g+uQakruEzGbv6Pu jaXdDphogUZWl3RNHhZ5BjQOPB38CEAU6TGtvfZ0MGBvGO6TkNAIOdL7p+1dEeH/ vFr9sD0lFWOJ7kJd7YxEY74A6VLI9MeI8MSnZcf1GbA1CdbmLURhw1zK3vU5LLzN IPkWreEjb+6bgukCQFvKqBorsVScf/B+W2AVsetReeebtrgl5cCmizPI27oP3fF6 NcjlzynbXBmpfYe3Cfez/6Cw7LQMI/bAg3pnpPbgm7jq8kdr8DGEu+k+24S7hxKJ Ct7SJS+HpufARBpc6q5e448WAJ4wz9jC+aeoldZYXT0s+e8VR1s2hmUAFznRTfM= =aqCT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org