[opensuse-project] Clarification, please. SLE v SLES
During the various discussions about some source code provided by SUSE LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and "SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable. In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard, for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop _and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding? If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included) implementation. 1. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-04/msg00104.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
PatrickD Garvey - 15:10 21.06.15 wrote:
During the various discussions about some source code provided by SUSE LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and "SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard, for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop _and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included) implementation.
SLE is used to refer to common code that both SLES and SLED are based upon, but I would stress that in that sentence there is also another word - ... release a *significant* portion of the ... So speculations are possible, but the easiest thing to do is to take a look yourself: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/SUSE:SLE-12:GA I see Gnome Shell, so desktop should be there and AFAIK, SLED uses Gnome only. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Michal Hrusecky - 6:31 22.06.15 wrote:
PatrickD Garvey - 15:10 21.06.15 wrote:
During the various discussions about some source code provided by SUSE LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and "SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard, for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop _and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included) implementation.
SLE is used to refer to common code that both SLES and SLED are based upon, but I would stress that in that sentence there is also another word - ... release a *significant* portion of the ... So speculations are possible, but the easiest thing to do is to take a look yourself:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/SUSE:SLE-12:GA
I see Gnome Shell, so desktop should be there and AFAIK, SLED uses Gnome only.
Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2015 um 06:33 Uhr Von: "Michal Hrusecky" <Michal.Hrusecky@opensuse.org> An: opensuse-project@opensuse.org Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Clarification, please. SLE v SLES
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SLE is used to refer to common code that both SLES and SLED are based upon, but I would stress that in that sentence there is also another word - ... release a *significant* portion of the ... So speculations are possible, but the easiest thing to do is to take a look yourself:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/SUSE:SLE-12:GA
I see Gnome Shell, so desktop should be there and AFAIK, SLED uses Gnome only.
Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-)
Except a download directory to link against (-> Studio) ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On 22 June 2015 at 10:58, Axel Braun <Axel.Braun@gmx.de> wrote:
Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-)
Except a download directory to link against (-> Studio) ... --
Um, you can already build SLE 12 appliances in SUSE Studio And I would expect you to be able to build openSUSE 42 ones once, you know, we actually build it ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 22. Juni 2015, 11:02:44 schrieb Richard Brown:
On 22 June 2015 at 10:58, Axel Braun <Axel.Braun@gmx.de> wrote:
Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-)
Except a download directory to link against (-> Studio) ...
Um, you can already build SLE 12 appliances in SUSE Studio
And I would expect you to be able to build openSUSE 42 ones once, you know, we actually build it ;)
Sure I can - but anyone using the appliance, and just wants to add a single package, requires to clone and rebuild the appliance, instead of just issue a 'zypper in <package>'. I'm actually building on Studio to give less experienced users a smooth start, and not to make things more complicated...but that is in fact what happens with SLE-builds at the moment. A repo that contains just the packages that are available on Studio would be highly appreaciated. Cheers Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 10:58 +0200, Axel Braun wrote:
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2015 um 06:33 Uhr Von: "Michal Hrusecky" <Michal.Hrusecky@opensuse.org> An: opensuse-project@opensuse.org Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] Clarification, please. SLE v SLES
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SLE is used to refer to common code that both SLES and SLED are based upon, but I would stress that in that sentence there is also another word - ... release a *significant* portion of the ... So speculations are possible, but the easiest thing to do is to take a look yourself:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/SUSE:SLE-12:GA
I see Gnome Shell, so desktop should be there and AFAIK, SLED uses Gnome only.
Hmm, checking what is there and what I can think of as part of SLE and everything seems to be there, so I don't see anything missing :-)
Except a download directory to link against (-> Studio) ...
What should be in the download directory? The announcement mentioned making source code available. -Scott
On 22 June 2015 at 00:10, PatrickD Garvey <patrickdgarveyt@gmail.com> wrote:
During the various discussions about some source code provided by SUSE LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and "SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard, for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop _and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included) implementation.
1. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-04/msg00104.html
You're absolutely correct, I chose my words carefully :) SUSE are providing openSUSE with SLE sources, which includes sources for open source packages which are contained in the SUSE Linux Enterprise Server _and_ Desktop Products. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 22 June 2015 at 00:10, PatrickD Garvey <patrickdgarveyt@gmail.com> wrote:
During the various discussions about some source code provided by SUSE LLC to openSUSE, two similar phrases have been used "SLE sources" and "SLES sources" as if they are interchangeable.
In the original posting by Richard Brown [1], he very specifically said, "SUSE is preparing to pro-actively release a significant portion of the SUSE Linux Enterprise source code, including a regular stream of maintenance updates, to the openSUSE Project." Thank you, Richard, for your precision. From that, I understood that SUSE LLC was releasing the sources used to create SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop _and_ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server. Is that a correct understanding?
If yes, please, everyone, use the phrase "SLE sources" to fully communicate what is being generously provided by SUSE LLC. Using the phrase "SLES sources" leads me to deduce one would _have_ to add other sources to properly support a desktop (laptops included) implementation.
1. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2015-04/msg00104.html
You're absolutely correct, I chose my words carefully :) SUSE are providing openSUSE with SLE sources, which includes sources for open source packages which are contained in the SUSE Linux Enterprise Server _and_ Desktop Products.
Thank you, Richard, for the confirmation. So, folks, can we now use the precision that the English language allows? "SLE sources" are available. Use them as appropriate. Thank you, PatrickD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org
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