"Lars Müller" wrote:

On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 12:08:19AM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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All,

I got the below from a different list and wanted to forward it to opensuse community members that might be interested, but I realized our community doesn't have a way to do that.

That's a shame. :(

Well, and you believe to address this by adding yet one more list to the existing more than 80?

You did the right thing and sent the information to the list which might fit best. You might even spread the news via social media or pass it with the prefix JFYI in the subject line to one of the other 80 lists.

But this is no reason to believe this is a shame.

It's more a shame that it is again Monday and the tea mug is empty. ;)

Cheers,

Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team + SUSE Labs SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

Lars, Maybe this could be discussed at either of the conferences coming up. === I don't care if the designated way is a mailing list, forum, facebook page, etc. But I do think our community members interested in contract work or jobs should have a place to congregate and it should be readily known so people can post to it. My local lug does this and it gets 2 or 3 postings a week. Not too high a volume to discourage subscribers. They only take postings for work in our local area. I did forward the opp to that list. As to your proposal, having opportunities randomly spread across the mailing lists is pointless. Greg -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Monday 03 September 2012 12:41:25 Rajko wrote:

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:37:03 -0400

Greg Freemyer wrote:

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But I do think our community members interested in contract work or jobs should have a place to congregate and it should be readily known so people can post to it.

I think that idea to have job market place that will be preferred by openSUSE users and contributors is excellent. There are plenty of services out there to choose from:

https://www.elance.com/?r https://www.odesk.com/ http://www.guru.com/index.aspx http://www.softwaredevelopersindia.com/ and so on. Note that I did not check any of those providers for availability of Linux developers, nor actual quality and safety of their services.

It will provide place where: * openSUSE users can group, post rewards and attract developers that will fix problems that SUSE can't because of low number of requests.

* Non-coders, interested in fixes, willing to pay someone to find developer and have what they want.

* small businesses can hire (contract) local people to fix, or setup, installations based on openSUSE.

It is not exactly FOSS with "Free" as in "free beer", but it will produce congregation of skilled people around openSUSE that will work very similar as app stores. This can be called Service Store.

Note: App stores is what Linux has since first distro was created, but it took Apple marketing muscle to make that popular among users and developers.

Guys, put it on the agenda of oSC for a BoF session: job offerings related to openSUSE is certainly something interesting to talk about.

Hi, I take this as a suggestion to consider within my team. Hopefully we will have a suggestion for you guys at oSC'12. On Friday, September 07, 2012 07:21:41 AM Bryen M Yunashko wrote:

On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 13:47 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Monday 03 September 2012 12:41:25 Rajko wrote:

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:37:03 -0400

Greg Freemyer wrote:

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But I do think our community members interested in contract work or jobs should have a place to congregate and it should be readily known so people can post to it.

I think that idea to have job market place that will be preferred by openSUSE users and contributors is excellent. There are plenty of services out there to choose from:

https://www.elance.com/?r https://www.odesk.com/ http://www.guru.com/index.aspx http://www.softwaredevelopersindia.com/ and so on. Note that I did not check any of those providers for availability of Linux developers, nor actual quality and safety of their services.

It will provide place where: * openSUSE users can group, post rewards and attract developers that

will fix problems that SUSE can't because of low number of requests.

* Non-coders, interested in fixes, willing to pay someone to find

developer and have what they want.

* small businesses can hire (contract) local people to fix, or setup,

installations based on openSUSE.

It is not exactly FOSS with "Free" as in "free beer", but it will produce congregation of skilled people around openSUSE that will work very similar as app stores. This can be called Service Store.

Note: App stores is what Linux has since first distro was created, but it took Apple marketing muscle to make that popular among users and developers.

Guys, put it on the agenda of oSC for a BoF session: job offerings related to openSUSE is certainly something interesting to talk about.

Since unfortunately I won't be at oSC, I'll give my opinion here. :-)

I don't think a meeting is needed. This is something of a no-brainer. I've been looking closely at LUG groups lately and notice many of them have a Jobs link that lists relevant open source jobs in their area.

Instead, I say we just do it:

- Create a Jobs page on the wiki. With a link prominent to that page. - Create an open mailing list called jobs-listing@opensuse.org. - Members of that group would review and determine whether such job is relevant and post it on the wiki. (There will be a lot of jobs submmissions sent from recruiters that may be irrelevant, so screening is useful.) - Encourage people to simply tick to check off the "Watch" option if they want to be notified that there's a new listing on that page.

Boom, done. A little more work, but at least then we have a saner solution and it attracts more people to watch openSUSE. Downside, everyone has to register an account through Novell to get the watch feature enabled for themselves.

Bryen -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe@suse.com

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Hi,

Also, I hope that those like Bryen (and me) that can't be at oSC'12 will have opportunity to see proposal as soon as you publish it on the conference.

We will send the draft when is ready to openSUSE Board. They will decide how to proceed. Saludos -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe@suse.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org