Re: [opensuse-project] openSUSE LTS codename
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Kim Leyendecker <kimleyendecker@hotmail.de> wrote:
In the most points, I agree with you. But How shall we name it during the discussion on the Mailing list?
Given Tumbleweed is used for a rolling upgrade release, Cactus, Redwood, Sequoia all sound good to me for a LTS release, but a European may not grasp the last 2 very readily. Even more long-lived and desert specific: Joshua Tree or Yucca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_brevifolia fyi: all of the above but the cactus can live thousands of years, but they may be restricted to the American West, so not good international names. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On 2010-12-11 Greg offered the following:
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Kim Leyendecker
<kimleyendecker@hotmail.de> wrote:
In the most points, I agree with you. But How shall we name it during the discussion on the Mailing list?
Given Tumbleweed is used for a rolling upgrade release, Cactus, Redwood, Sequoia all sound good to me for a LTS release, but a European may not grasp the last 2 very readily.
Even more long-lived and desert specific: Joshua Tree or Yucca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_brevifolia
fyi: all of the above but the cactus can live thousands of years, but they may be restricted to the American West, so not good international names.
Greg
I think as long as it is something that is generally recognizable, it should work, regardless of which country it is found in. Take 'Sputnik' for instance, it certainly is symbolic of First Manned Object in Orbit, that most, world-wide would recognize, while Apollo might be symbolic for first man walking on the moon, but the countries most certainly are different as Russia and the US are arguably opposites in those races. The ICONs, the names of the events are international in recognition and that is the key. Yucca, Joshua_tree, Gobi (as in desert), Sahara, whatever long lived thing, place, event.... Just as long as it can easily be associated with longevity with a large number of people. For the uninformed, well, they can be informed of the significance anytime. I mean, their education can be so wonderful :) Hell, what is a Gecko anyway? Kinda of a lizard isn't it? Or, maybe just a cartoon icon advertising car insurance? Who cares...as long as it is, or becomes recognizable. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
I think it's ok if it just called openSUSE 11.4 LTS. On 11.12.2010 16:23, Richard Creighton wrote:
On 2010-12-11 Greg offered the following:
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Kim Leyendecker
<kimleyendecker@hotmail.de> wrote:
In the most points, I agree with you. But How shall we name it during the discussion on the Mailing list? Given Tumbleweed is used for a rolling upgrade release, Cactus, Redwood, Sequoia all sound good to me for a LTS release, but a European may not grasp the last 2 very readily.
Even more long-lived and desert specific: Joshua Tree or Yucca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_brevifolia
fyi: all of the above but the cactus can live thousands of years, but they may be restricted to the American West, so not good international names.
Greg I think as long as it is something that is generally recognizable, it should work, regardless of which country it is found in. Take 'Sputnik' for instance, it certainly is symbolic of First Manned Object in Orbit, that most, world-wide would recognize, while Apollo might be symbolic for first man walking on the moon, but the countries most certainly are different as Russia and the US are arguably opposites in those races. The ICONs, the names of the events are international in recognition and that is the key. Yucca, Joshua_tree, Gobi (as in desert), Sahara, whatever long lived thing, place, event.... Just as long as it can easily be associated with longevity with a large number of people. For the uninformed, well, they can be informed of the significance anytime. I mean, their education can be so wonderful :) Hell, what is a Gecko anyway? Kinda of a lizard isn't it? Or, maybe just a cartoon icon advertising car insurance? Who cares...as long as it is, or becomes recognizable.
Richard
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Le 11/12/2010 16:00, Greg Freemyer a écrit :
Even more long-lived and desert specific: Joshua Tree or Yucca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_brevifolia
why not dinosorus? very old lizards :-) openSUSE velociraptor jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
El sáb, 11-12-2010 a las 17:22 +0100, jdd escribió:
Le 11/12/2010 16:00, Greg Freemyer a écrit :
Even more long-lived and desert specific: Joshua Tree or Yucca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_brevifolia
why not dinosorus? very old lizards :-)
openSUSE velociraptor
A. Do not like dinosaurs because they are very extincts and we are very alive, are we?. Oldest but not dead, right ? ;-)
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El sáb, 11-12-2010 a las 10:00 -0500, Greg Freemyer escribió:
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Kim Leyendecker <kimleyendecker@hotmail.de> wrote:
In the most points, I agree with you. But How shall we name it during the discussion on the Mailing list?
What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
Given Tumbleweed is used for a rolling upgrade release, Cactus, Redwood, Sequoia all sound good to me for a LTS release, but a European may not grasp the last 2 very readily.
Even more long-lived and desert specific: Joshua Tree or Yucca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_brevifolia
fyi: all of the above but the cactus can live thousands of years, but they may be restricted to the American West, so not good international names.
Greg
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Le 11/12/2010 18:29, Ricardo Chung a écrit :
What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
great idea!!! I vote for evergreen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
I vote for evergreen too awesome name :) On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 18:54 +0100, jdd wrote:
Le 11/12/2010 18:29, Ricardo Chung a écrit :
What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
great idea!!!
I vote for evergreen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen
jdd
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Yes, evergreen sounds fine :) But cactus looks good too. Maybe we can use a german name? Yes, I know that an English name is better, but the classic SuSE was a German distribution. Just in time, I don know a good name i can post, but if I find something you will get it ;) kind regards kdl On 11.12.2010 18:29, Ricardo Chung wrote:
El sáb, 11-12-2010 a las 10:00 -0500, Greg Freemyer escribió:
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Kim Leyendecker <kimleyendecker@hotmail.de> wrote:
In the most points, I agree with you. But How shall we name it during the discussion on the Mailing list? What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
Given Tumbleweed is used for a rolling upgrade release, Cactus, Redwood, Sequoia all sound good to me for a LTS release, but a European may not grasp the last 2 very readily.
Even more long-lived and desert specific: Joshua Tree or Yucca. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_brevifolia
fyi: all of the above but the cactus can live thousands of years, but they may be restricted to the American West, so not good international names.
Greg
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Le 11/12/2010 18:57, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
Yes, evergreen sounds fine :) But cactus looks good too.
who wants to have a cactus in his pocket :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
But a cactus is stable. Have you ever tried to kill a cactus just running against it? On 11.12.2010 19:00, jdd wrote:
Le 11/12/2010 18:57, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
Yes, evergreen sounds fine :) But cactus looks good too. who wants to have a cactus in his pocket :-(
jdd
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Le 11/12/2010 19:02, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
But a cactus is stable. Have you ever tried to kill a cactus just running against it?
with a caterpilar :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Okay, 1-0 for jdd I think that evergreen is right the best chose. Maybe we shall make a public poll, so that the community can chose a name? kind regards kdl On 11.12.2010 22:52, jdd wrote:
Le 11/12/2010 19:02, Kim Leyendecker a écrit :
But a cactus is stable. Have you ever tried to kill a cactus just running against it? with a caterpilar :-)
jdd
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On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 06:57:04PM +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Yes, evergreen sounds fine :) But cactus looks good too. Maybe we can use a german name? Yes, I know that an English name is better, but the classic SuSE was a German distribution.
Immergrün ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Immergrün? No that's sound really boring, sorry. I mean something that shows you long term support and sound very nice and trustfull. A little off topic question for Greg: Can you speak German or have you use a translater? kind regards kdl On 11.12.2010 19:03, Greg KH wrote:
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 06:57:04PM +0100, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Yes, evergreen sounds fine :) But cactus looks good too. Maybe we can use a german name? Yes, I know that an English name is better, but the classic SuSE was a German distribution. Immergrün ?
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Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Yes, evergreen sounds fine :) But cactus looks good too. Maybe we can use a german name? Yes, I know that an English name is better, but the classic SuSE was a German distribution.
I too like Evergreen, but I also think a German name would be better. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.0°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Yes, evergreen sounds fine :) But cactus looks good too. Maybe we can use a german name? Yes, I know that an English name is better, but the classic SuSE was a German distribution.
I too like Evergreen, but I also think a German name would be better.
Evergreen already is kind of a German word. It's a pseudo-anglicism used for music and means "oldie". Anyways, a code name is just optional. What's needed is someone to take over the work. Otherwise 11.1 is going to be declared discontinued, repos well be removed etc in two weeks according to the schedule (well, probably next year due to vacations). It would be advantageous to have some statement about the community effort by then so we could add it to the official announcement, regardless of whether that effort has a name. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Yes, evergreen sounds fine :) But cactus looks good too. Maybe we can use a german name? Yes, I know that an English name is better, but the classic SuSE was a German distribution.
I too like Evergreen, but I also think a German name would be better.
Evergreen already is kind of a German word. It's a pseudo-anglicism used for music and means "oldie".
That makes is as much a German word as "meeting" :-)
Anyways, a code name is just optional. What's needed is someone to take over the work. Otherwise 11.1 is going to be declared discontinued, repos well be removed etc in two weeks according to the schedule (well, probably next year due to vacations).
Yes, I agree. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-0.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2010 12:29 PM, Ricardo Chung wrote:
What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
I vote for Evergreen as well.. Very nice idea.
Given Tumbleweed is used for a rolling upgrade release, Cactus, Redwood, Sequoia all sound good to me for a LTS release, but a European may not grasp the last 2 very readily.
Cactus for the rolling release is nice, or just name it Tumbleweed and leave it at that :) -Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
+1 for Evergreen Em Sáb, 2010-12-11 às 13:02 -0500, Matt Hayes escreveu:
On 12/11/2010 12:29 PM, Ricardo Chung wrote:
What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
I vote for Evergreen as well.. Very nice idea.
Given Tumbleweed is used for a rolling upgrade release, Cactus, Redwood, Sequoia all sound good to me for a LTS release, but a European may not grasp the last 2 very readily.
Cactus for the rolling release is nice, or just name it Tumbleweed and leave it at that :)
-Matt
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Okay, you get me for "Evergreen" too. On 11.12.2010 19:31, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
+1 for Evergreen
Em Sáb, 2010-12-11 às 13:02 -0500, Matt Hayes escreveu:
On 12/11/2010 12:29 PM, Ricardo Chung wrote:
What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
I vote for Evergreen as well.. Very nice idea.
Given Tumbleweed is used for a rolling upgrade release, Cactus, Redwood, Sequoia all sound good to me for a LTS release, but a European may not grasp the last 2 very readily.
Cactus for the rolling release is nice, or just name it Tumbleweed and leave it at that :)
-Matt
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Hi, On 11.12.2010 18:29, Ricardo Chung wrote:
What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
Evergeen is okay. But we have to take the name of a plant again? I prefer a name like "Ledge". I think about a ledge at a mountain (long term support). openSUSE has not a ledge (like short support time). -- Kind regards, Sebastian - openSUSE Member (Freespacer) Website/Blog: <http://www.sebastian-siebert.de> Important notes on openSUSE Mailing List: <http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2010 01:47 PM, Sebastian Siebert wrote:
Hi,
On 11.12.2010 18:29, Ricardo Chung wrote:
What about Evergreen. It is a plant that has leaves in all seasons. It is symbolic how our community is long lasting and renewing itself and how new projects come to alive despite the drawbacks or seasons.
Evergeen is okay. But we have to take the name of a plant again?
I prefer a name like "Ledge". I think about a ledge at a mountain (long term support). openSUSE has not a ledge (like short support time).
Depends on the Ledge! Not sure I'd find myself trusting a ledge on a mountain... I'd trust an Evergreen! -Matt ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org
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