[opensuse-project] asking members for help

We have a number of "members", and of people asking to be a member. Who cares to see what they happen to do? When we ask "contribute first then come back", couldn't we ask them something more precise? How could we be more effective in this? Jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Hello jdd Create a list with Junior Jobs for those who want to start contributing. For marketing, there are https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Junior_jobs https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_jobs But not sure if those are updated. 2015-05-12 8:53 GMT+03:00 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
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Le 12/05/2015 10:08, Efstathios Iosifidis a écrit :
this is a very good starting point, but IMHO, the tasks should be sorted by difficulty (first choice being "packaging" may be a bit too much :-) I thing this should be a priority. What do others think? thanks, we are at lest two :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Someone have to check again that pages because I saw something that I don't know if it is correct * openSUSE Shop Maintainer Work in collaboration with Jos Poortvliet to review current state of Shop Is still Jos responsible for the Shop?
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Alexandros_ Alexandros wrote:
AFAIK, he's not with openSUSE anymore. According to linkedin, he's at owncloud. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (21.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

I know that Jos is with ownCloud. For this reason I gave Jos as example, someone have to check and correct these pages. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:35 PM, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12.05.2015 12:49, Alexandros_ Alexandros wrote:
I know that Jos is with ownCloud. For this reason I gave Jos as example, someone have to check and correct these pages.
Someone _else_ you mean, right? Stand up and volunteer and write everyone who create a junior job if the job is still up to grab instead of talking about what others should do. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

I see there are 586 pages of ten, that should be 5860 members (but I don't know how they are sorted, I'm last on the last page :-) * is there a way to send them a mail as a hole (once a year?)? * is there an automatic way to track if they are active, else than because you already know the name :-) the rationale here is than contributing for developers is nearly obvious (open an osc account and develop :-) - but I remember the time where it was not considered enough to be a member - but it's not for others. I guess the first step to have contributors is to first keep track of the members, then to the people that asks to be a member. having some numbers about activity should be a great help. I would be glad to help in this part (discussion are nice, but they have to give some practical result). I see two things I could try to do first: * find some very simple junior job * track medium activity members to ask them help on tracking activity.. you see? then on junior jobs what are the plan about use of "connect" in general? I just think the first thing I could do is creating a small poll I could show to people I contact as the most simple job I can imagine :-) stop or go? thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 12 May 2015 10.53:42 jdd wrote:
I see there are 586 pages of ten, that should be 5860 members (but I don't know how they are sorted, I'm last on the last page :-)
There's 586 registered people as members on connect. We know a big bunch of them are inactive. That's why Michal on a board initiative has proposed an new approach Still not completely finished so everything that follow should be read as may happen The global idea is remove everybody (except those identified as active contributors) from active group and move them to a "retired geekos" group. A single on click link by email move interested people to the active group. And a retired geeko should be easily contact membership team to become active again quickly without administrative fuss.... When this cleanup, re-org will happen should be before the end of ? <Michal?>
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On 05/13/2015 12:31 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
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Hello, just to add my two cents, in the Italian Wiki, we (active members) simply monitor the RecentChanges special page. I think this is important from the Wiki perspective, since you can verify what's going on (new, edited, defaced pages and so on). Furthermore, i like the Junior Jobs idea. Are there some kind of "mentors" for them? Bye hawake -- Linux user number 433087 Linux registered machine number 351448 http://linuxcounter.net/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

Hello jdd Create a list with Junior Jobs for those who want to start contributing. For marketing, there are https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Junior_jobs https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_jobs But not sure if those are updated. 2015-05-12 8:53 GMT+03:00 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
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Le 12/05/2015 10:08, Efstathios Iosifidis a écrit :
this is a very good starting point, but IMHO, the tasks should be sorted by difficulty (first choice being "packaging" may be a bit too much :-) I thing this should be a priority. What do others think? thanks, we are at lest two :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Someone have to check again that pages because I saw something that I don't know if it is correct * openSUSE Shop Maintainer Work in collaboration with Jos Poortvliet to review current state of Shop Is still Jos responsible for the Shop?
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Alexandros_ Alexandros wrote:
AFAIK, he's not with openSUSE anymore. According to linkedin, he's at owncloud. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (21.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org

I know that Jos is with ownCloud. For this reason I gave Jos as example, someone have to check and correct these pages. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:35 PM, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
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Alexandros_ Alexandros
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Angelos Tzotsos
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Bruno Friedmann
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Efstathios Iosifidis
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jdd
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Per Jessen
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Stephan Kulow