[opensuse-project] http://mirrors.kernel.org/ and http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=opensuse incorrectly describe openSUSE
1-openSUSE is not OpenSUSE
2-"Novell's "community project" Linux distribution" seems to be an obsolete description, but what description should replace it?
3-How best to see that corrections get made? Looks like maybe webmaster@linuxfoundation.org and distro@distrowatch.com need to be contacted by a project leader.
On 07/29/2015 07:25 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
How best to see that corrections get made? Looks like maybe
How about:
openSUSE is a Linux based-project and distribution sponsored by SUSE Linux GmbH and other companies. Promoting the use of Linux everywhere, the project provides free and easy access to its Leap and Tumbleweed releases, which provide a user-friendly desktop, and feature-rich server environment. The project's Free Open Source Software tools like YaST, Open Build Service, openQA, Snapper, Machinery and Kiwi empower and enhance the practice of developers and system administrators.
On July 30, 2015 1:43:43 AM EDT, Douglas DeMaio Douglas.DeMaio@suse.de wrote:
On 07/29/2015 07:25 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
How best to see that corrections get made? Looks like maybe
How about:
openSUSE is a Linux based-project and distribution sponsored by SUSE Linux GmbH and other companies. Promoting the use of Linux everywhere, the project provides free and easy access to its Leap and Tumbleweed releases, which provide a user-friendly desktop, and feature-rich server environment. The project's Free Open Source Software tools like YaST, Open Build Service, openQA, Snapper, Machinery and Kiwi empower and enhance the practice of developers and system administrators.
I like it but:
What is machinery? Can't say I'm aware of it. Should it be such a high level list?
Is opensuse upstream for kiwi? I had no idea.
I assume susestudio isn't FOSS. Is it worth a mention any way, possibly in a separate sentence? I use a susestudio generated appliance routinely. The appliance itself is FOSS.
Greg
Quoting greg.freemyer@gmail.com:
I like it but:
What is machinery? Can't say I'm aware of it. Should it be such a high level list?
http://machinery-project.org. It's for system administrator of data centers. It's pretty cool and its progressing quickly. I think the list is extensive enough. I left out a few things ;-)
Is opensuse upstream for kiwi? I had no idea.
I don't believe so, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I assume susestudio isn't FOSS. Is it worth a mention any way, possibly in a separate sentence? I use a susestudio generated appliance routinely. The appliance itself is FOSS.
It's SUSE's so I wouldn't include it in an openSUSE description.
v/r Doug
Torsdag den 30. juli 2015 07:43:43 skrev Douglas DeMaio:
On 07/29/2015 07:25 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
How best to see that corrections get made? Looks like maybe
How about:
openSUSE is a Linux based-project and distribution sponsored by SUSE Linux GmbH and other companies. Promoting the use of Linux everywhere, the project provides free and easy access to its Leap and Tumbleweed releases, which provide a user-friendly desktop, and feature-rich server environment. The project's Free Open Source Software tools like YaST, Open Build Service, openQA, Snapper, Machinery and Kiwi empower and enhance the practice of developers and system administrators.
I think Distrowatch is very focused on distributions as such, and not projects and non-distro tools etc. At least I know Exherbo couldn't get listed there, because they don't do actual releases. I also think users visiting Distrowatch.com initially are more interested in the distro "product" itself than the project as a whole.
Maybe it would be better to try and have them list openSUSE Leap and openSUSE Tumbleweed as two separate distributions (note Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu MATE etc. are listed separately), with a short description of what each distro is about.
E.g. something along the lines of:
TUMBLEWEED "openSUSE Tumbleweed is a bleeding edge, rolling release Linux distribution, suitable for developers and experienced and forgiving users, who are interested in following the latest free software/open source developments.
It is a community distribution developed openly by the openSUSE project using the openSUSE instance of Open Build Service and it is the upstream for the SUSE Linux Enterprise line of products."
LEAP "openSUSE Leap aims to be a stable, productive distribution for desktops and servers. It's based on SUSE Linux Enterprise, but with additional and updated packages. A major release occurs every 3 to 4 years, with regular releases of service packs with up to date desktop software, while keeping a stable and consistent base system.
It is a community distribution developed openly by the openSUSE project using the openSUSE instance of Open Build Service."
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 07:43:43AM +0200, Douglas DeMaio wrote:
On 07/29/2015 07:25 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
How best to see that corrections get made? Looks like maybe
How about:
openSUSE is a Linux based-project and distribution sponsored by SUSE Linux GmbH
Who cares about the legal form (GmbH)? One decade later it's a Ltd or LLC etc, etc, etc.
and other companies. Promoting the use of Linux everywhere, the project provides free and easy access to its Leap and Tumbleweed releases, which provide a user-friendly desktop, and feature-rich server environment. The project's Free Open Source Software tools like YaST, Open Build Service, openQA, Snapper, Machinery and Kiwi empower and enhance the practice of developers and system administrators.
Kiwi is a SUSE baby as you wrote. See https://github.com/openSUSE/kiwi and Marcus Schäfer the author works for SUSE. Therefore I would openSUSE count as upstream.
Machinery sounds like a nice approach but I'm not sure if it is (yet) on the same level as YaST or the OBS.
If possible please add links to the individual project web pages.
But after finally reading Martin's reply to this thread with the suggestion to focus on Tumbleweed and Leap I'm convinced that's the best approach to go. Only these two are Linux Distributions in the context of Distrowatch.
Cheers,
Lars
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