23 Nov
2011
23 Nov
'11
11:03 p.m.
Heya all,
Going back to the discussion we had a while ago about moving to
Tumbleweed in openSUSE 12.1.
After a little bit of thinking* I concluded that of course all (new)
tumbleweed users need to move over to this setup of using the
'current' instead of the 12.1 repositories. So I changed the
Tumbleweed page to reflect this:
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
And also: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_from_12.1_to_Tumbleweed
It makes the text a bit complicated. And I suck at un-complicating it,
I suppose, help is welcome.
But there is another matter I'm sure some of you object to much more
strongly: I use a self-made one-click-install file for adding
Tumbleweed**. I dunno if OCI can remove repo's but at least I can add
the right ones... However. I have no idea where to host the file. So
for now I put it on my *anathema* public dropbox...
/me hides
Yes, horrible, I know. I'm however sure our sysadmins can find a much
better spot for this one-click install. And maybe also for the
one-click-install for ownCloud, if we have one that works better?!?
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
I just decided to go ahead, make the OCI and put it somewhere to have
at least an improvement over the current situation ;-)
Cheers,
Jos
* yes, I do it sometimes and yes, it usually hurts and leads to bad
stuff, I'll try not to do it again
** Credit to Greg KH who made it, I just added the 'current' repo's to it too
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23 Nov
23 Nov
11:25 p.m.
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 08:03:55PM -0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Heya all,
Going back to the discussion we had a while ago about moving to
Tumbleweed in openSUSE 12.1.
After a little bit of thinking* I concluded that of course all (new)
tumbleweed users need to move over to this setup of using the
'current' instead of the 12.1 repositories. So I changed the
Tumbleweed page to reflect this:
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
And also: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_from_12.1_to_Tumbleweed
It makes the text a bit complicated. And I suck at un-complicating it,
I suppose, help is welcome.
But there is another matter I'm sure some of you object to much more
strongly: I use a self-made one-click-install file for adding
Tumbleweed**. I dunno if OCI can remove repo's but at least I can add
the right ones... However. I have no idea where to host the file. So
for now I put it on my *anathema* public dropbox...
/me hides
It's not bad, I had it hosted on kernel.org for a long time before that
site went down :)
Yes, horrible, I know. I'm however sure our
sysadmins can find a much
better spot for this one-click install. And maybe also for the
one-click-install for ownCloud, if we have one that works better?!?
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
I just decided to go ahead, make the OCI and put it somewhere to have
at least an improvement over the current situation ;-)
I would love to be able to figure out how to add a file like this to the
wiki to be hosted within it, anyone know how to do this?
thanks,
** Credit to Greg KH who made it, I just added the
'current' repo's to it too
Nice, glad to see you added this, but doesn't this also mean you need to
disable the 12.1 repos as well?
thanks,
greg k-h
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24 Nov
24 Nov
12:57 a.m.
On 2011-11-23 14:25:42 (-0800), Greg KH <gregkh(a)suse.de> wrote:
Well the openSUSE:Tumbleweed/standard repository provides a
"diff" to 12.1, so that's alright.
But I presume you mean all the other ("add-on") repositories and
there, indeed, one should disable the 12.1 repos, as the
tumbleweed repositories there contain everything, instead of a
diff to 12.1.
That cannot be done with OCI though, and I don't see how that
could be achieved using OCI in the first place.
Have to do this:
zypper ar http://r.opensu.se/tumbleweed.repo
(If vendor change prohibition is enabled (which it is by
default), shouldn't the tumbleweed repo have a higher priority ?
e.g. by adding a line "priority=20" in its .repo file ?)
On a side note, only few of those "add-on" repositories are
available for Tumbleweed.
cheers
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 08:03:55PM -0200, Jos
Poortvliet wrote:
> Heya all,
>
> Going back to the discussion we had a while ago about moving to
> Tumbleweed in openSUSE 12.1.
>
> After a little bit of thinking* I concluded that of course all (new)
> tumbleweed users need to move over to this setup of using the
> 'current' instead of the 12.1 repositories. So I changed the
> Tumbleweed page to reflect this:
> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
> And also: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_from_12.1_to_Tumbleweed
>
> It makes the text a bit complicated. And I suck at un-complicating it,
> I suppose, help is welcome.
>
> But there is another matter I'm sure some of you object to much more
> strongly: I use a self-made one-click-install file for adding
> Tumbleweed**. I dunno if OCI can remove repo's but at least I can add
> the right ones... However. I have no idea where to host the file. So
> for now I put it on my *anathema* public dropbox...
OCI cannot remove repos.
It's not bad, I had it hosted on kernel.org for a
long time before that
site went down :)
> Yes, horrible, I know. I'm however sure our sysadmins can find a much
> better spot for this one-click install. And maybe also for the
> one-click-install for ownCloud, if we have one that works better?!?
> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
>
> I just decided to go ahead, make the OCI and put it somewhere to have
> at least an improvement over the current situation ;-)
I can put it on opensu.se (aka opensuse-community.org).
I would love to be able to figure out how to add a
file like this to the
wiki to be hosted within it, anyone know how to do this?
thanks,
Would be a wiki attachment then, which produces rather odd URLs.
Another option would be to have the ymp file on a proper URL
(e.g. http://i.opensu.se/tumbleweed has an automagically
generated one) and simply link to it from the wiki.
** Credit to
Greg KH who made it, I just added the 'current' repo's to it too
Nice, glad to see you added this, but doesn't this also mean you need to
disable the 12.1 repos as well? 
2:31 a.m.
2011/11/23 Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser(a)opensuse.org>rg>:
On 2011-11-23 14:25:42 (-0800), Greg KH
<gregkh(a)suse.de> wrote:
Well the openSUSE:Tumbleweed/standard repository provides a
"diff" to 12.1, so that's alright.
But I presume you mean all the other ("add-on") repositories and
there, indeed, one should disable the 12.1 repos, as the
tumbleweed repositories there contain everything, instead of a
diff to 12.1.
That cannot be done with OCI though, and I don't see how that
could be achieved using OCI in the first place.
Have to do this:
zypper ar http://r.opensu.se/tumbleweed.repo
(If vendor change prohibition is enabled (which it is by
default), shouldn't the tumbleweed repo have a higher priority ?
e.g. by adding a line "priority=20" in its .repo file ?)
On a side note, only few of those "add-on" repositories are
available for Tumbleweed.
cheers
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_\_v http://fosdem.org -- we haz conf
Hi,
Can the "services" feature of zypper be used for this? I don't know if
its implemented/available in openSUSE,
http://old-en.opensuse.org/Standards/Repository_Index_Service
Regards,
Luiz
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On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 08:03:55PM -0200, Jos
Poortvliet wrote:
> Heya all,
>
> Going back to the discussion we had a while ago about moving to
> Tumbleweed in openSUSE 12.1.
>
> After a little bit of thinking* I concluded that of course all (new)
> tumbleweed users need to move over to this setup of using the
> 'current' instead of the 12.1 repositories. So I changed the
> Tumbleweed page to reflect this:
> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
> And also: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_from_12.1_to_Tumbleweed
>
> It makes the text a bit complicated. And I suck at un-complicating it,
> I suppose, help is welcome.
>
> But there is another matter I'm sure some of you object to much more
> strongly: I use a self-made one-click-install file for adding
> Tumbleweed**. I dunno if OCI can remove repo's but at least I can add
> the right ones... However. I have no idea where to host the file. So
> for now I put it on my *anathema* public dropbox...
OCI cannot remove repos.
It's not bad, I had it hosted on kernel.org
for a long time before that
site went down :)
> Yes, horrible, I know. I'm however sure our sysadmins can find a much
> better spot for this one-click install. And maybe also for the
> one-click-install for ownCloud, if we have one that works better?!?
> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
>
> I just decided to go ahead, make the OCI and put it somewhere to have
> at least an improvement over the current situation ;-)
I can put it on opensu.se (aka opensuse-community.org).
I would love to be able to figure out how to add
a file like this to the
wiki to be hosted within it, anyone know how to do this?
thanks,
Would be a wiki attachment then, which produces rather odd URLs.
Another option would be to have the ymp file on a proper URL
(e.g. http://i.opensu.se/tumbleweed has an automagically
generated one) and simply link to it from the wiki.
** Credit
to Greg KH who made it, I just added the 'current' repo's to it too
Nice, glad to see you added this, but doesn't this also mean you need to
disable the 12.1 repos as well? 
9:58 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] One-click-installs
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jos(a)opensuse.org> wrote:
Heya all,
Going back to the discussion we had a while ago about moving to
Tumbleweed in openSUSE 12.1.
After a little bit of thinking* I concluded that of course all (new)
tumbleweed users need to move over to this setup of using the
'current' instead of the 12.1 repositories. So I changed the
Tumbleweed page to reflect this:
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
And also: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_from_12.1_to_Tumbleweed
It makes the text a bit complicated. And I suck at un-complicating it,
I suppose, help is welcome.
But there is another matter I'm sure some of you object to much more
strongly: I use a self-made one-click-install file for adding
Tumbleweed**. I dunno if OCI can remove repo's but at least I can add
the right ones... However. I have no idea where to host the file. So
for now I put it on my *anathema* public dropbox...
/me hides
Yes, horrible, I know. I'm however sure our sysadmins can find a much
better spot for this one-click install. And maybe also for the
one-click-install for ownCloud, if we have one that works better?!?
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
I just decided to go ahead, make the OCI and put it somewhere to have
at least an improvement over the current situation ;-)
The openSUSE-KDE team hosts them inside their own repo. For instance
take a look here:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_12.…
You can see they have KDE4-BASIS.ymp, KDE4-DEFAULT.ymp,
KDE4-DEVEL.ymp, and KDE4-GAMES.ymp hosted right in their repo
directory tree. That seems like a logical place for it, especially
since anyone trying to set it up manually will automatically come
across the ymp files when doing so. You could probably ask them how
they do that.
-Todd
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28 Nov
28 Nov
3:56 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] One-click-installs
On Thursday, November 24, 2011 09:58:41 todd rme wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Jos Poortvliet
<jos(a)opensuse.org> wrote:
Now THIS is an excellent suggestion. I think I'll try to create a 'package'
with just that file, then submit it to Tumbleweed so it can be maintained in
there :D
See if GregKH likes that idea...
Meanwhile, I understood OCI can not help us remove the 'old' repositories. I
have written down in the how-to on openSUSE.org/Tumbleweed how to remove them
but it'd be far nicer if OCI could take care of that. I suspect giving OCI
such power is a bit dangerous from a security perspective? Or is it something
we could add some day, provided someone steps up to do it?
Heya all,
Going back to the discussion we had a while ago about moving to
Tumbleweed in openSUSE 12.1.
After a little bit of thinking* I concluded that of course all (new)
tumbleweed users need to move over to this setup of using the
'current' instead of the 12.1 repositories. So I changed the
Tumbleweed page to reflect this:
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
And also: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Change_from_12.1_to_Tumbleweed
It makes the text a bit complicated. And I suck at un-complicating it,
I suppose, help is welcome.
But there is another matter I'm sure some of you object to much more
strongly: I use a self-made one-click-install file for adding
Tumbleweed**. I dunno if OCI can remove repo's but at least I can add
the right ones... However. I have no idea where to host the file. So
for now I put it on my *anathema* public dropbox...
/me hides
Yes, horrible, I know. I'm however sure our sysadmins can find a much
better spot for this one-click install. And maybe also for the
one-click-install for ownCloud, if we have one that works better?!?
http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
I just decided to go ahead, make the OCI and put it somewhere to have
at least an improvement over the current situation ;-)
The openSUSE-KDE team hosts them inside their own repo. For instance
take a look here:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_12.1
/
You can see they have KDE4-BASIS.ymp, KDE4-DEFAULT.ymp,
KDE4-DEVEL.ymp, and KDE4-GAMES.ymp hosted right in their repo
directory tree. That seems like a logical place for it, especially
since anyone trying to set it up manually will automatically come
across the ymp files when doing so. You could probably ask them how
they do that. -Todd
29 Nov
29 Nov
12:37 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-factory] One-click-installs
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 12:56 -0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Thse .ymp files are coming from patterns. Any 'package' you do would
result in either an rpm or a deb.
This link
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Tutorial#Create_Patterns
should carry the information you need.
A quick start is:
osc meta -e pattern <prj> <patternname>
see for example:
osc meta pattern X11:Compiz compiz-gnome
(without -e it's viewing only.. so nor harm...)
Hope that helps,
Dominique
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You can see
they have KDE4-BASIS.ymp, KDE4-DEFAULT.ymp,
KDE4-DEVEL.ymp, and KDE4-GAMES.ymp hosted right in their repo
directory tree. That seems like a logical place for it, especially
since anyone trying to set it up manually will automatically come
across the ymp files when doing so. You could probably ask them how
they do that.
Now THIS is an excellent suggestion. I think I'll try to create a 'package'
with just that file, then submit it to Tumbleweed so it can be maintained in
there :D
See if GregKH likes that idea... 
24 Nov
24 Nov
11:16 a.m.
Hey,
On 23.11.2011 23:03, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
And maybe also for the one-click-install for ownCloud
If you have a single package/pattern you want people to install, you can
also use the new download page feature of the OBS.
Either link to
http://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=network&package=mira…
or if you want to be fancy include it via iframe
<iframe
src="http://software.opensuse.org/download/iframe?project=network&…
For the ownCloud/mirall case please wait until we have pushed it into
openSUSE:12.1:Update and point to that version. Thanks
Henne
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28 Nov
28 Nov
3:54 p.m.
On Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:16:46 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 23.11.2011 23:03, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Yes, that OBS feature is awesome (I know the implementation makes Adrian go
all red-eye but it works great from an user perspective).
It is on the mirall SDB page right now.
And maybe also for the one-click-install for
ownCloud
If you have a single package/pattern you want people to install, you can
also use the new download page feature of the OBS.
Either link to
http://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=network&package=mira…
or if you want to be fancy include it via iframe
<iframe
src="http://software.opensuse.org/download/iframe?project=network&…
rall"></iframe> For the ownCloud/mirall case please wait until we have
pushed it into
openSUSE:12.1:Update and point to that version. Thanks
Yes, that'd be far better...
Henne
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