20 Oct
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20 Oct
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4:16 p.m.
Hi,
Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with my opensuse.org e-mail
address? The address itself is working fine: I can receive e-mails.
But what SMTP server would I for sending? And how to authenticate?
Greetings from Bremen
hartmut
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20 Oct
4:24 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] how to send e-mails with my opensuse.org e-mail address?
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 22:16 +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
Hi,
Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with my opensuse.org e-mail
address? The address itself is working fine: I can receive e-mails.
But what SMTP server would I for sending? And how to authenticate?
Greetings fro
m Bremen
hartmut
Hartmut,
I. It is an forwarding address which forwards to your primary
account. To send mail under that address, simply use your
existing smtp server that you authenticate to.
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5:10 p.m.
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On Monday, 2008-10-20 at 15:24 -0500, Bryen wrote:
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 22:16 +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
and if your existing smtp server rejects you with the o.o alias (mine
does), you can use the smtp server of gmail, if you previously configure a
setting in gmail telling them you are using them to send with any other
alias you want to.
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Carlos E. R.
Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with my opensuse.org e-mail
address? The address itself is working fine: I can receive e-mails.
But what SMTP server would I for sending? And how to authenticate?
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21 Oct
21 Oct
5:07 a.m.
Hi,
Am Montag 20 Oktober 2008 23:10:21 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Yes, that's the problem (sorry for not explaining this in my first e-mail). I
was actually assuming that this (rejecting other FROM addresses) would be
default with most SMTP servers. Anyway, it certainly doesn't work with my
provider ...
On Monday, 2008-10-20 at 15:24 -0500, Bryen wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 22:16 +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
> > Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with my opensuse.org e-mail
> > address? The address itself is working fine: I can receive e-mails.
> >
> > But what SMTP server would I for sending? And how to authenticate?
>
> I. It is an forwarding address which forwards to your primary
> account.
Like I wrote in my initial e-mail: this is working fine.
To send
mail under that address, simply use your
existing smtp server that you authenticate to.
and if your existing smtp server rejects you with the o.o alias (mine
does), you can use the smtp server of gmail, if you
previously configure a
setting in gmail telling them you are using them to send with any other
alias you want to.
But that would require me to get an gmail account, right?
Greetings from Bremen
hartmut
6:58 a.m.
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On Tuesday, 2008-10-21 at 11:07 +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
I thought so. None of the providers in Spain that I know of allow this.
None. So, gmail is a blessing...
Right. I'm sending you an "invite".
There, go to "settings", "Accounts", "Send mail as", and
"Add another
email address".
Of course, before that, learn how to configure pop or imap, and smtp
sending with your new gmail address, get it working, and then configure it
for your o.o alias.
Notice that your real gmail address will go hidden, but find-able, in the
headers.
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Carlos E. R.
and if your
existing smtp server rejects you with the o.o alias (mine
does),
Yes, that's the problem (sorry for not explaining this in my first e-mail). I
was actually assuming that this (rejecting other FROM addresses) would be
default with most SMTP servers. Anyway, it certainly doesn't work with my
provider ... you can use
the smtp server of gmail, if you previously configure a
setting in gmail telling them you are using them to send with any other
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20 Oct
20 Oct
7:44 p.m.
Ahoj,
Am Montag 20 Oktober 2008 22:16:55 schrieb Hartmut Meyer:
Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with my
opensuse.org e-mail
address? The address itself is working fine: I can receive e-mails.
But what SMTP server would I for sending? And how to authenticate?
I have some simple words for you ...
SHAME ON YOU
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7:54 p.m.
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Hi,
Le mardi 21 octobre 2008, à 01:44 +0200, Marco Michna a écrit :
Ahoj,
Am Montag 20 Oktober 2008 22:16:55 schrieb Hartmut Meyer:
This reply is not really useful, and it doesn't feel respectful either
(at least, to me). Please try to avoid this.
See http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles and especially the last
paragraph in the "We value" section.
Thanks,
Vincent
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Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with
my opensuse.org e-mail
address? The address itself is working fine: I can receive e-mails.
But what SMTP server would I for sending? And how to authenticate?
I have some simple words for you ...
SHAME ON YOU 
8:15 p.m.
On Monday 20 October 2008 16:54, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi,
Le mardi 21 octobre 2008, à 01:44 +0200, Marco Michna a écrit :
I think the implication is that by sending from an address that (appears
to be) in the opensuse.org domain you are effectively trying to
impersonate someone officially affiliated with the openSUSE project.
And frankly, I don't really think you should do this. Email addresses
are infinitely available, for either special purposes or one-time
(disposable) use. You should use such an address if you don't want to
post as your "true self" (whatever that is, these days).
Ahoj,
Am Montag 20 Oktober 2008 22:16:55 schrieb Hartmut Meyer:
This reply is not really useful, and it doesn't feel respectful
either (at least, to me). Please try to avoid this. Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with
my opensuse.org
e-mail address? ...
I have some simple words for you ...
SHAME ON YOU See http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles and
especially the last
paragraph in the "We value" section.
"We" (an ill-defined notion) value many things. Many of us value
honesty, transparency and forthrightness over privacy (whatever that
is, these days) and much more than deceptiveness and obfuscation (of
identity or intent or most anything else).
Thanks,
Vincent
Randall Schulz
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8:39 p.m.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Randall R Schulz <rschulz(a)sonic.net> wrote:
On Monday 20 October 2008 16:54, Vincent Untz wrote:
@opensuse.org email aliases are available to members of the project --
so, some people may wish to also send mail that is from that alias.
Unfortunately, we don't at this time provide SMTP service, thus some
members may have issues sending mail from those addresses.
See here: http://en.opensuse.org/Members and here:
https://users.opensuse.org/membership/list?page=3
Harmut is a member, so he is entitled to an email alias, and his
question doesn't strike me as "deceptive" or obfuscation.
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This reply is not really useful, and it
doesn't feel respectful
either (at least, to me). Please try to avoid this.
I think the implication is that by sending from an address that (appears
to be) in the opensuse.org domain you are effectively trying to
impersonate someone officially affiliated with the openSUSE project.
8:44 p.m.
On Monday 20 October 2008 17:39, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Randall R Schulz
wrote:
OK. Then the premise for the snide comment from Marco Michna and my
attempt to explain it don't really obtain.
But if you're going to create the notion of an official membership for
the openSUSE project, then you really should, at a minimum, provide an
SMTP server for those members to use to send mail in their capacity as
project members.
...
Harmut is a member, so he is entitled to an email alias, and his
question doesn't strike me as "deceptive" or obfuscation. Best,
Zonker
Randall Schulz
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7:02 a.m.
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On Monday, 2008-10-20 at 17:44 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
But if you're going to create the notion of an
official membership for
the openSUSE project, then you really should, at a minimum, provide an
SMTP server for those members to use to send mail in their capacity as
project members.
There are a number of organizations that provide an email alias for
members or users, and no smtp server. For example, "sourceforge", or the
"ieee". This is quite common. And yes, it is a problem, in more ways than
one.
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Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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20 Oct
20 Oct
9:25 p.m.
Hartmut:
First, congradulations on obtaining an openSUSE mail address!
Here's how I send email, and others may have other ways, but it works for
me:
When your preferred email client gives you the option of typing your
address, simply type in your given @opensuse.org address. Then set that
email up to go out through the SMTP option of your choice (mine is through
my ISP's SMTP server), and use your existing ISP email account info.
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On Monday, 2008-10-20 at 20:25 -0500, Kevin Yeaux wrote:
Here's how I send email, and others may have other
ways, but it works for me:
When your preferred email client gives you the option of typing your address,
simply type in your given @opensuse.org address. Then set that email up to go
out through the SMTP option of your choice (mine is through my ISP's SMTP
server), and use your existing ISP email account info.
The problem is that many ISP smtp servers here reject emails whose "from"
address is not the one in the contract, ie, not one of theirs. That's his
problem and also mine.
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Carlos E. R.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: [opensuse-project] how to send e-mails with my opensuse.org
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On Monday, 2008-10-20 at 20:25 -0500, Kevin Yeaux wrote:
Yeah, I just saw that. So no, my suggestion would not work ;-).
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Here's how I send email, and others may have
other ways, but it works for
me:
When your preferred email client gives you the option of typing your
address,
simply type in your given @opensuse.org address. Then set that email up
to go
out through the SMTP option of your choice (mine is through my ISP's SMTP
server), and use your existing ISP email account info.
The problem is that many ISP smtp servers here reject emails whose "from"
address is not the one in the contract, ie, not one of theirs. That's his
problem and also mine. 
7:48 a.m.
Hi,
Am Montag 20 Oktober 2008 22:16:55 schrieb Hartmut Meyer:
Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with my
opensuse.org e-mail
address? The address itself is working fine: I can receive e-mails.
But what SMTP server would I for sending? And how to authenticate?
Thanks for all the replies. They prompted me to re-assess my assumption about
alien FROM addresses not getting accepted by most SMTP servers (which is true
for the SMTP server of web.de, which I use by default).
It turns out that one of the SMTP servers that I have access to does actually
accept me sending with the opensuse.org sender address. So I'm fine.
Greetings from Bremen
hartmut
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