Board Meeting Monday 2022-12-19 13:00 CET
Dear community, these meeting minutes are my last activity as Board member. See it as an advantage or a threat, I will stay active in the community! ;-) Have a good christmas and a happy new year, Axel = Board Meeting Monday 2022-12-19 13:00 CET = * Present: Syds, Axel, Gerald, Maurizio, Neal, Gertjan, Douglas (as handover) * Guests: Marcel R * Excused: * Missed: == Handover to new Board == * Board Election results have been published: Doug is following Axel, who could not run again after 2 terms. Gert and Neal confirmed as Board members. * Handover was conducted == Freewear donation == https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issue/52 * As we still can't take donations, idea would be to pay this to one of the oSC23 sponsor, or donate to other projects, or to receive some additional shirts from Freewear. * Decision is for Doug to ask for a couple of additional shirts to give away. == Proprietary software on OBS == * Recent discussion on buildservice list (https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/buildservice@lists.opensuse.org/thr... https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/buildservice@lists.opensuse.org/thr... ) about Oracle client created more confusion than clarification * Board should drive clarification, we need help from SUSE Legal * Questions...Why are we as a project tied to US export regulations? Servers are in Europe, no legal form. We accept that our sponsors may be, but not openSUSE as a project. Servers are also in the United States (e.g. provo for parts of the mirror/download infrastructure) * Doug to forward question to Cirian - no reply so far; Gerald will also follow up. * Update: Simon provided an interesting link for the same: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/resources/publications/understanding-us-expo... Under this light, we need to rewrite EULA https://code.opensuse.org/board/tickets/issue/51 opened - Gerald to follow. == Lazy Project maintainer == * While we are discussing how to make openSUSE more attractive to new contributors, reality is that new submissions are not processed by project maintainers for weeks or even longer. Quoting from a mail to Axel privately: "Die drei Requests sind sozusagen eine Angebot meinerseits an die Community bzw. openSUSE. Wenn das nicht gewollt ist oder offensichtlich nicht wichtig genug, sorry, aber dann halt nicht. Hinterherrennen werde ich nicht. Und ja, Motivation, nochmal einen Paketrequest zu stellen, geht definitiv anders." Translation: The three requests are an offer from me to the community and openSUSE. If that is not wanted or obviously not important enough, sorry, but then just not. I will not run after them. And yes, motivation to make another package request is definitely different. During last RelEng meeting this was already discussed. Next step: Early Enablement (Dominique's) team writes procedure, define it (maintain wiki, or perhaps create an attritubte). Factory maintainers would be still the last resort. Is nothing is happening after e.g. a month of reminders, Factory maintainers should receive a reminder as well. Doug to propose this in the next RelEng meeting. Update after the meeting: The originator of the above mail has withdrawn the SRs in between, after 4 weeks of no response. == Budget == Discussions about budget were able to produce some additional funds, which will allow for supportive funding along with TSP funds (albeit, at a reduced amount per quarter with the exception of Q2 for oSC). Meeting closed at 13:45 CET -- Dr. Axel Braun <docb@opensuse.org> Member of the openSUSE Board
On Wed, 2022-12-21 at 18:07 +0100, Axel Braun wrote:
* Questions...Why are we as a project tied to US export regulations? Servers are in Europe, no legal form. We accept that our sponsors may be, but not openSUSE as a project. Servers are also in the United States (e.g. provo for parts of the mirror/download infrastructure)
All SUSE trademarks, including openSUSE, are owned by SUSE LLC Sources: https://www.suse.com/company/legal/terms-of-use https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:License https://www.trademarkelite.com/europe/trademark/trademark-detail/004946729/O... Considering this, I think the question as to why the Project is tied to US Export regulations is obvious - a trademark holding entity in the US and is going to be held to US regulations regarding things 'traded' under marks registered in the US. -- Richard Brown Linux Distribution Engineer - Early Adopters Team SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Frankenstraße 146, D-90461 Nuremberg, Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Managing Directors/Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Martje Boudien Moerman
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 4:14 AM Richard Brown <rbrown@suse.de> wrote:
On Wed, 2022-12-21 at 18:07 +0100, Axel Braun wrote:
* Questions...Why are we as a project tied to US export regulations? Servers are in Europe, no legal form. We accept that our sponsors may be, but not openSUSE as a project. Servers are also in the United States (e.g. provo for parts of the mirror/download infrastructure)
All SUSE trademarks, including openSUSE, are owned by SUSE LLC
Sources: https://www.suse.com/company/legal/terms-of-use https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:License https://www.trademarkelite.com/europe/trademark/trademark-detail/004946729/O...
Considering this, I think the question as to why the Project is tied to US Export regulations is obvious - a trademark holding entity in the US and is going to be held to US regulations regarding things 'traded' under marks registered in the US.
I knew this and I thought I had said as much. I guess it didn't get transcribed into the notes. Sorry. :( -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth!
participants (3)
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Axel Braun
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Neal Gompa
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Richard Brown