28 Feb
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5:13 p.m.
Some updates are requested to what is happening.
<url>https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Membership_officials#Updates_to_Progress_Requested:_State_of_Experiments</url>
Also, any offers to help Maintain the system once up and running?
<url>https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Membership_officials#openSUSE_Infra_related</url>
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1 Mar
2:38 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
Le 28/02/2019 à 23:13, Fraser_Bell a écrit :
Some updates are requested to what is happening.
<url>https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Membership_officials#Updates_to_Progress_Requested:_State_of_Experiments</url>
looks like since this page have been built, the discussion stopped :-(
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New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
On 2/28/19 11:38 PM, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/02/2019 à 23:13, Fraser_Bell a écrit :
I would think that is mostly because the volunteers are nose-down
working on their parts of the project or their solutions.
Do not lose heart, I think things are happening.
I am getting ready to do an article for openSUSE News about this
project, which is why I am trying to find out more about what is
happening, who is doing what, and what their progress is.
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Some updates are requested to what is happening.
<url>https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Membership_officials#Updates_to_Progress_Requested:_State_of_Experiments</url>
looks like since this page have been built, the discussion stopped :-(
jdd
6:11 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
On 2/28/19 11:38 PM, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
Ooops, I hit the send button before I was ready, meant to also say thank
you, jdd, for your work and for offering to help with maintenance, if
you are able, depending on what the final solution turns out to be.
I think we can count on the Heroes and the Admins to give us guidance at
the start so we can get up to speed.
I expect once the final solution is arrived at, we will probably have
help from someone who understands the chosen system.
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2:47 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
Le 28/02/2019 à 23:13, Fraser_Bell a écrit :
Some updates are requested to what is happening.
<url>https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Membership_officials#Updates_to_Progress_Requested:_State_of_Experiments</url>
I would like people at least give some hint of what they like better, to
reduce the unuseful work :-)
for example my "galette" proposal do not seems to be very popular,
nobody cared to subscribe
there in even in galette a module to generate random data for
experiment, here the admin view:
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_03/ICbhUlY11Dh_Screenshot-20190301-084547.png
jdd
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New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
I would like people at least give some hint of what they like better,
to reduce the unuseful work :-)
for example my "galette" proposal do not seems to be very popular,
nobody cared to subscribe
I was not aware you were running a test.
"Subscribe" had me confused, but I guess it means "sign up".
The requirement to fill in address, zip and city seems silly, but I just
wrote some garbage.
When I tried to login to change my password, I received a 404.
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Le 28/02/2019 à 23:13, Fraser_Bell a écrit :
> Some updates are requested to what is happening.
>
>
<url>https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Membership_officials#Updates_to_Progress_Requested:_State_of_Experiments</url>
7:08 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
Le 01/03/2019 à 13:00, Per Jessen a écrit :
I was not aware you were running a test.
:-)
"Subscribe" had me confused, but I guess it means "sign up".
anybody can create an account, an admin can later give a "role"
The requirement to fill in address, zip and city seems silly, but I just
wrote some garbage.
it's initially to non profit organization, there address is mandatory. I
wonder if the new european regulations wont make some sort of them
necessary, to identify somebody (not sure)
When I tried to login to change my password, I
received a 404.
curious
jdd
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4:56 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
Hello,
Am Freitag, 1. März 2019, 08:47:05 CET schrieb jdd(a)dodin.org:
I would like people at least give some hint of what
they like better,
to reduce the unuseful work :-)
for example my "galette" proposal do not seems to be very popular,
nobody cared to subscribe
I did, you should see a user "cboltz" ;-) but I didn't have time to look
at more details yet, and also won't have time during the next days [1].
Feel free to give me admin permissions so that I can test a bit more
next week.
On a somewhat related note: You probably know that TSP (travel support)
is running on the connect.o.o server. I'm in concact with Ancor to get
it moved to a separate server, but - carnival first ;-)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
[1] One of my offline hobbies is carnival. I'll drive a big trailer on
carnival parades on the next 4 days, so please don't expect too many
mails from me until ash wednesday ;-)
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5:31 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
Le 01/03/2019 à 22:56, Christian Boltz a écrit :
Hello,
Am Freitag, 1. März 2019, 08:47:05 CET schrieb jdd(a)dodin.org:
I don't see any subscriber with this name. I have Trumpet (per jensen)
and MEYER Hans (?)
so I added yours, you must have received a confirmation mail, I will
,forward you the passwd separately
I would like people at least give some hint of
what they like better,
to reduce the unuseful work :-)
for example my "galette" proposal do not seems to be very popular,
nobody cared to subscribe
I did, you should see a user "cboltz" ;-) [1] One of my offline hobbies is carnival. I'll
drive a big trailer on
carnival parades on the next 4 days, so please don't expect too many
mails from me until ash wednesday ;-)
great!!
jdd
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6:21 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
On 3/1/19 1:56 PM, Christian Boltz wrote:
On a somewhat related note: You probably know that TSP (travel support)
is running on the connect.o.o server. I'm in concact with Ancor to get
it moved to a separate server, but - carnival first ;-)
Yes, one of the things we need to take care of before Connect is finally
shut down.
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6:13 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse-project] Re: Membership Management Project: What is your progress???
On 2/28/19 11:47 PM, jdd(a)dodin.org wrote:
Le 28/02/2019 à 23:13, Fraser_Bell a écrit :
Yes, I agree with this wholeheartedly.
Some updates are requested to what is happening.
<url>https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE_talk:Membership_officials#Updates_to_Progress_Requested:_State_of_Experiments</url>
I would like people at least give some hint of what they like better, to
reduce the unuseful work :-)
for example my "galette" proposal do not seems to be very popular,
nobody cared to subscribe
there in even in galette a module to generate random data for
experiment, here the admin view:
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/19_03/ICbhUlY11Dh_Screenshot-20190301-084547.png
jdd
Sorry, I think I had better get testing that. Been preoccupied with
non-openSUSE things this past week.
I should have tested earlier, my apologies. Will do so sometime this
weekend.
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4:44 a.m.
On 28/02/2019 23.13, Fraser_Bell wrote:
Some updates are requested to what is happening.
There is no spam in sight at connect, mostly Stefan Seyfried doing.
About the new platform I will not say, I know nothing about them.
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11:27 a.m.
New subject: SPAM prevention (was Re: [opensuse-project] Membership Management Project: What is your progress???)
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On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 10:44 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/02/2019 23.13, Fraser_Bell wrote:
I recommend considering CleanTalk ( https://cleantalk.org ) as a spam
solution; we implemented for LinuxFest Northwest this year, after being
inundated with hundreds of fake accounts originating in Russia (?!?)
over the course of a single week.
It was easy to implement, has open source toolkits in most languages,
and is very reasonably priced, without the annoyance (and other
baggage) of things like Captchas (which don't work against humans ;-)
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Some updates are requested to what is happening.
There is no spam in sight at connect, mostly Stefan Seyfried doing.
About the new platform I will not say, I know nothing about them.
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2:53 p.m.
New subject: SPAM prevention (was Re: [opensuse-project] Membership Management Project: What is your progress???)
On 01/03/2019 17.27, James Mason wrote:
On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 10:44 +0100, Carlos E. R.
wrote:
Implementing any of that exceeds my capabilities.
I don't know if I have permissions, maybe I do: but I simply do not know
the platform. Me doing such a thing is high risk.
Maybe user validation needs to be done by Microfocus, not connect,
because the user verification is theirs.
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On 28/02/2019 23.13, Fraser_Bell wrote:
> Some updates are requested to what is happening.
There is no spam in sight at connect, mostly
Stefan Seyfried doing.
About the new platform I will not say, I know
nothing about them.
I recommend considering CleanTalk ( https://cleantalk.org ) as a spam
solution; we implemented for LinuxFest Northwest this year, after being
inundated with hundreds of fake accounts originating in Russia (?!?)
over the course of a single week.
It was easy to implement, has open source toolkits in most languages,
and is very reasonably priced, without the annoyance (and other
baggage) of things like Captchas (which don't work against humans ;-)
6:20 p.m.
New subject: SPAM prevention (was Re: [opensuse-project] Membership Management Project: What is your progress???)
On 3/1/19 8:27 AM, James Mason wrote:
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On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 10:44 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Thanks, James. Definitely something to look into once we are setting up
the new system, depending on what the Team ultimately chooses.
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On 28/02/2019 23.13, Fraser_Bell wrote:
I recommend considering CleanTalk ( https://cleantalk.org ) as a spam
solution; we implemented for LinuxFest Northwest this year, after being
inundated with hundreds of fake accounts originating in Russia (?!?)
over the course of a single week.
It was easy to implement, has open source toolkits in most languages,
and is very reasonably priced, without the annoyance (and other
baggage) of things like Captchas (which don't work against humans ;-)
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James Mason <jmason(a)suse.com>
SUSE Some updates are requested to what is happening.
There is no spam in sight at connect, mostly Stefan Seyfried doing.
About the new platform I will not say, I know nothing about them.
6:17 p.m.
On 3/1/19 1:44 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 28/02/2019 23.13, Fraser_Bell wrote:
Yes, thank you Carlos and Stefan for a job well done.
I think you two deserve a big round of applause.
Some updates are requested to what is happening.
There is no spam in sight at connect, mostly Stefan Seyfried doing.
About the new platform I will not say, I know nothing about them.
Your main concern was the spam, and you have done well. That is
progress, IMHO.
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2 Mar
3:13 a.m.
Am 02.03.19 um 00:17 schrieb Fraser_Bell:
Your main concern was the spam, and you have done
well. That is
progress, IMHO.
Just as a progress report: I'm now at page 160 of the users directory
(newest first, 10 per page) at checking and banning SPAM accounts.
But actually the ones back there do not really matter, because they do
not turn up on the front page and thus are never seen (non-logged-in
cannot browse the users list AFAICT and logged in at least would have to
actively search for a user to find a spam account), so I will basically
shift down to just watching the front page and treating new spammers
accordingly.
I have not seen new spammers creating groups yet, this seems to have
been only a few some years back that had specialized on the elgg
platform AFAICT, and they are deleted already.
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On 02/03/2019 09.13, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 02.03.19 um 00:17 schrieb Fraser_Bell:
How do you detect those? :-?
Funny names?
Your main concern was the spam, and you have done
well. That is
progress, IMHO.
Just as a progress report: I'm now at page 160 of the users directory
(newest first, 10 per page) at checking and banning SPAM accounts.
But actually the ones back there do not really matter, because they do
not turn up on the front page and thus are never seen (non-logged-in
cannot browse the users list AFAICT and logged in at least would have to
actively search for a user to find a spam account), so I will basically
shift down to just watching the front page and treating new spammers
accordingly.
Right.
I have not seen new spammers creating groups yet, this
seems to have
been only a few some years back that had specialized on the elgg
platform AFAICT, and they are deleted already.
I deleted some at the start that seemed recent, but not much. And some
polls.
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