Hi listmates,
as you can see the Statistics on User Directory[1], "2839 of 6775 users support the Guiding Principles[2]" ATM. I'm wondering why more than half of the registered users don't support Guiding Principles.
I know most of YOU, who subscribed to this -project list, are supporting Guiding Principles and I may have asked to the wrong list, but I want to know the reason(s) why many people don't support Guiding Principles.
How do you think about it ?
If you haven't supported Guiding Principles yet and have some reasons why you don't want to support them, I'd like to hear your opinions.
I myself do support Guiding Principles and believe that every ideals in the principles are very important for me. But, if someone can't agree with them for some reasons, IMHO, we have to know the reasons and improve our principles.
[1] https://users.opensuse.org/ [2] http://en.opensuse.org/Guiding_Principles
Best,
as you can see the Statistics on User Directory[1], "2839 of 6775 users support the Guiding Principles[2]" ATM. I'm wondering why more than half of the registered users don't support Guiding Principles.
I know most of YOU, who subscribed to this -project list, are supporting Guiding Principles and I may have asked to the wrong list, but I want to know the reason(s) why many people don't support Guiding Principles.
How do you think about it ?
If you haven't supported Guiding Principles yet and have some reasons why you don't want to support them, I'd like to hear your opinions.
I myself do support Guiding Principles and believe that every ideals in the principles are very important for me. But, if someone can't agree with them for some reasons, IMHO, we have to know the reasons and improve our principles.
I am guessing here, but I would say that the vast majority of those who have a user account have only created the account... and then never logged in again. They never bothered to click the link to show support for the Guiding Principles... and unless prompted, will likely never log in and show that support. There may be one or two that object to some obscure point in the Principles, but... that's likely one or two out of thousands.
I know for my own case - despite being reasonably active over the years with openSUSE, I rarely if ever log into the User account I have on the website... (I did sign the Guiding Principles though :-) )
C.
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 10:24:51 Clayton wrote:
I am guessing here, but I would say that the vast majority of those who have a user account have only created the account... and then
IIRC the users.o.o account gets created when you (accidentally or out of curiosity) visit the site while being logged in via iChain (because you did login for Forums, Wiki, Build Service, ...). I doubt that most of the non-signed users ever clicked the "Guiding Principles" link on it.
Bye, Steve
I am guessing here, but I would say that the vast majority of those who have a user account have only created the account... and then
IIRC the users.o.o account gets created when you (accidentally or out of curiosity) visit the site while being logged in via iChain (because you did login for Forums, Wiki, Build Service, ...). I doubt that most of the non-signed users ever clicked the "Guiding Principles" link on it.
So... it probably comes down to awareness. Maybe it's a possibility to set things up to send an email off to the registered users if they haven't logged in for X number of months, and maybe a pointer to the GP's, reminding them that they are there, and ask them politely if they would like to to sign (or discuss them if they don't' agree with some point)? You will never get 100% response to those emails, but a few will actually take the time to log in and look around once they are reminded they have an account there.
C.
On Tuesday 19 May 2009, Clayton wrote:
I am guessing here, but I would say that the vast majority of those who have a user account have only created the account... and then
IIRC the users.o.o account gets created when you (accidentally or out of curiosity) visit the site while being logged in via iChain (because you did login for Forums, Wiki, Build Service, ...). I doubt that most of the non-signed users ever clicked the "Guiding Principles" link on it.
So... it probably comes down to awareness. Maybe it's a possibility to set things up to send an email off to the registered users if they haven't logged in for X number of months, and maybe a pointer to the GP's, reminding them that they are there, and ask them politely if they would like to to sign (or discuss them if they don't' agree with some point)?
If its awareness then probably we might need to change the perception. So people notice or even get asked if they want to support the guiding principles.
Best M
You will never get 100% response to those emails, but a few will actually take the time to log in and look around once they are reminded they have an account there.
C.
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