-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/2015 05:26 AM, Martin Schlander wrote:
Lørdag den 9. maj 2015 19:24:52 skrev Richard Brown:
On 9 May 2015 at 15:14, Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@gmail.com> wrote:
If you dismiss the model of Tumbleweed based openSUSE releases on this background, you never gave the model a fair chance. <snip> And regardless, whatever problems 13.2 had, will only become worse by basing on SLE, and alienating the Tumbleweed contributors further from the stable openSUSE releases.
We need to fix the issues, and not venture into some radical experiment, that I can't see succeeding.
Agreed
<snip>
If you're motivated to use openSUSE because "I want a Linux distribution that just works", then please, help us with this new Regular Release, in order to make it perfect for you use cases.
Well, if you're going to sell this idea, you need to show me how it'll be significantly different than Debian Stable (apart from having a few great tools like yast, zypper, obs of course ;-).
Because from what I gather from the discussion, assuming anyone would actually step up and build this distro, it'll have:
* a release every 2-3 years
The releases would probably be malingered with SLE SP releases. The current public time frame for those is 16-18 months. Thus it would be a bit faster than 2-3 years.
* it'll have outdated hardware support compared to any mainstream distro
This would most likely apply only to plugin stuff or consumer grade HW. On the server side SLE kernels enable a lot of hardware along the way. Thus this argument has to be considered from both viewpoints. However, as I have stated elsewhere I am very concerned about the enablement of drivers that are not of interest to the enterprise team and how we would get those backported.
* old software (primarily talking about applications and desktop environments here, the stuff that people actually "see")
I think the idea is to have the "latest and greatest" DEs on the SLE Core. Thus the outdated applications may not necessarily be as big of a concern as is being stated here. Later, Robert - -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU Public Cloud Architect LINUX rjschwei@suse.com IRC: robjo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEbBAEBAgAGBQJVUKxpAAoJEE4FgL32d2UksoAH+JLx5a0uaCz2zRPXxT1DHJt8 DqW9GjKVD2j5q6f18pKAng7rnB9AhcztVlIsJ0JrvSifxj+zSJsPzcdPZGJuu3gL 0zNaosi2H506mB8U7S5kKqV6mwzrEpKCRPqJ6SuMLGi7TgCmMtrbbit0tqbpmlCK PFtcjHjfwy9zVwO5IpM+OeZx7UzahpomOKK/beBzL6dlJaBDfSX7MdvQNmxFIlWy RLBuiQm81OJqAV+l2x6UApbAHPssUTYr6vxXI5oauGmGGkCXJjxwMg4t2q+FXAfZ jo7KJXg/BvyAFf9rdzxJjq5MLWH0PuLmRAb5pJvTve0UvaTKG8vhYHSZF7yYGQ== =dXLb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org