Hi, On Saturday 30 November 2013 13:48:42 Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On Saturday 30 November 2013 06.40:51 Rajko wrote:
The easiest way would be to have 2 installations, one that we run, and another that is initially just copy of first, but will be updated. After update, reboot and you are in a brand new system. If it works you keep it, if not back to working and report a problem.
This would mean that we have only half of disk space, but with basic RAID we waste space at the same rate and we have no protection from failed updates.
BTW, with two systems in place we don't have to update grub. Install it once and after verification that it works, don't touch it. Kernel and initrd can be 2 times 2 symlinks to partitions and real kernels and initrds.
If you pay me the second 1TB ssd drive I need in my laptop I could afford such a system. The only way is : Having factory with almost no crash or clash.
Why I stop debugging and using factory, was the fact that I lost ~12 days of full paid days in a year. This represent a big amount of money (the real one). And also a pure lost of useful contribution time.
Bruno, you are a professional that work everyday with openSUSE and a contributor. For you, the compromise between contribution time, production time and "learning" time is key to "survive" in this ecosystem in the future. For a student, for instance, this compromise is different. The learning time (debugging/reinstalling/trying) might be more relevant. For a professional that do not contribute, is the production time what defines if openSUSE is the right choice.... You and some others that I have met this past 18 months have a privileged balanced vision of the picture that we can create with the pieces of the puzzle we have. We need more pedagogy from people like you. I have the feeling that, through the years, for unknown reasons to me, you have became more and more silent despite the fact you still use/love openSUSE. Where are you? We will need you in this journey.
I want to contribute, more and more, help me !
Exactly. It is the same message Ralf Flaxa sent in his keynote, right? Let me ask you this question..... Where should the project move in order for me to contribute more?
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