On 02/08/2013 10:00 PM, Will Stephenson wrote: Will, Another item is the following: "Apper 0.8 Rewritten around new PackageKit, and the software update notifier has been rewritten as a plasmoid. " Apper wasn't rewritten as a a plasmoid. The old Apper is still there and is the default for openSUSE 12.3. People might start looking for something that is not part of the default setup. The plasmoid is available, as you know, but not really pushed yet. What is new is the integration with the KDE Notification system, that gives a better integration with the system when informing the user that updates are available. From there the update installation can be triggered, but this will still happen through the known Apper interface. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org