Am Dienstag, 23. Februar 2010 14:14:09 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
Hi,
On 02/23/2010 01:57 PM, Karsten König wrote:
Am Dienstag, 23. Februar 2010 11:56:16 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
I welcome this discussion, and think its a necessary one, but i would like to discuss it uncoupled from this example. So what is our answer to:
Can we support for-profit organizations to make money?
Are you hinting at a strategy to generate a revenue from openSUSE by providing additional services besides support / boxed edition?
We don't make any revenue from providing support or a boxed edition. A for-profit entity called open-slx does. Oh irony... 8) Whoops =)
http://news.opensuse.org/2009/12/10/opensuse-11-2-and-its-retail-box/
Like the Ubuntu Yahoo deal for browser startpage?
We certainly do things like this already. As i said, we support for instance the for-profit organization Adobe by providing a software they produce to our userbase. They see this as an opportunity to upsell other products they have and we as opportunity to provide our users with a good PDF reader. Hm I though shipping these was mainly a service to the users as people might want the Acrobat Reader (shocked mumble in the audience), I didn't knew opensuse does profit more then a broader package database and one more pdf reader.
If yes, this really is propably not how Jeff expected the discussion to turn ;-)
I hope thats the turn he expected because this is how i understand the question Jeff asked :) Maybe he can clarify...
I don't mind these actions as long as they are unintrusive, don't limit my choice and especially respect the explicit upstream projects choice.
Okay. So your answer to the posed question is also: Yes we can.
That's too short, Ubuntu also only "support[s] for-profit organizations to make money?" with the Ubuntu One store, the for-profit organisation Canonical makes the profit. If openSUSE is to introduce this to generate money for Novell I'd disapprove, if it is to benefit only openSUSE I'd approve if the upstream project doesn't disagree. So a simple yes doesn't cut it for me here. As Vincent also used the wording, it comes down to beeing a good citizen. Btw. my simple "only opensuse may get money, not novell" statement isn't really fair in regard to novells contribution to openSUSE, but I think the benefit for novell shouldn't be in direct money but of a better product to sell and support. Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org