Le dimanche 10 mai 2015 à 13:32 +0200, Richard Brown a écrit :
On 10 May 2015 at 11:26, Martin Schlander <martin.schlander@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if you're going to sell this idea, you need to show me how it'll be significantly different than Debian Stable (apart from having a few great tools like yast, zypper, obs of course ;-).
Because from what I gather from the discussion, assuming anyone would actually step up and build this distro, it'll have:
* a release every 2-3 years
Wrong - we're talking about an openSUSE 'minor release' every year, based on SLE Service Packs (current planning within SUSE expects SLE12 service packs at the end of each calender year) A major release would be about 3 years into the future, around the same time as SUSE building SLE 13. SUSE intend to build SLE 13 by starting with a snapshot of Tumbleweed when they need to start building the next version of the enterprise distro.. I guess I forgot to mention that, but it might go some way to express the reliability Tumbleweed has these days.
* it'll have outdated hardware support compared to any mainstream distro
Wrong - SLE Service Packs always have baked in hardware enablement, and sometimes may include full Kernel version changes. openSUSE Releases will benefit from this work.
* old software (primarily talking about applications and desktop environments here, the stuff that people actually "see")
Wrong - The discussions so far on this topic with our Desktop Teams all show an interest of putting newer desktops ontop of this platform.
For everybody knowledge, I was successful in ensuring GNOME 3.14.x packages from GNOME:Factory (before 3.16 landed on Tumbledweed) could work on SLE12 sources a few weeks ago. Few changes were needed on SLE12 for this (I only required one Intel driver update, which was fixing a deadlock, trigger by GNOME > 3.10) and some changes in GNOME packages (mostly disabling Wayland when building on SLE12) which were integrated on GNOME:Factory. I don't envision a lot of issues with GNOME 3.16, I'll try to rebuild it on top of SLE sources, to see which adaptions are needed (probably not much). And maybe, if I have some time, I might even try to do a spin of SLE sources on OBS with GNOME 3.16 on top of it, just to see how a new openSUSE Regular release could look like ;) -- Frederic Crozat Enterprise Desktop Release Manager SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org