On 2024-07-15 14:41, Lubos Kocman wrote:
Hello
bear in mind that the party that presented the idea (originally Andy F, in the end, backed up by Robert Sirchia, I'm excluding Richard as he originally wanted a separate talk) is not necessarily a contributor to openSUSE. From such a perspective, the second largest openSUSE event sounded like a great opportunity (after the Asia summit, based on presented attendance numbers), plus asking in person, responding, etc.
Hi Lubos, I really do not like the characterisation you paint here that Andy nor Robert are "not necessarily a contributor to openSUSE" Both Andy and Robert were directly representing SUSE, _the_ largest collection of contributors to openSUSE, _the_ largest financial contributor to openSUSE, the administrator of our build service, the facilitator of all our infrastructure, our employer, and more. I know you're supportive of their request and are doing what you can to help things along, but I really felt the need to call out how uncomfortable your choice of language made me here. Everyone involved in this situation is an openSUSE contributor. There is no us (openSUSE) vs them (SUSE). There's just 'us', and correcting the consequences of mistakes made 20 years ago when deciding what moniker to use for that collective 'us' in this Project.