Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
On Thu 2020-10-22, Per Jessen wrote:
2) The "Pending approval" work-flow generates false assumptions. If you send a message while not subscribed, you are met with a message that says that your message is pending approval, building the assumption that your message will probably go though within a reasonable span of time. The assumption is however false ACK again. This is at least partially due to our mailing lists not having enough owners and moderators. Most of our lists have just one owner (ml-admin) and no moderators which pretty much means I become the bottleneck.
I believe we have a great moderator community on our forums (and maybe other media like Discord)?
How about asking for volunteers for our mailing lists? Maybe some of those moderators are willing to help there, too, or others step up, so this doesn't all rest on your shoulders.
Certainly, it is a fixed item on my todo-list. The key thing is assigning an owner though, and then leave it to him/her to sort out the rest. However, the truth is that there is _very_ little to do, which is another reason why requests can take a long time. When I know my mailbox is always empty, I might only check it once a week.
(a) + (b) solve all four issues, don't open loopholes for spams, and bring the ML worflow closer to the workflow of forums and instant messaging apps, making use of the comfort zone of people who already use these platforms. Just for the sake of argument - whose comfort zone is more important, the above or those of people who already use mailing lists?
Ultimately any community needs an influx of new members not only to grow, but even to remain stable. The question is: is this an either - or?
Or can we be more open, more accomodating (and if so, how) to new participants without alienating existing ones?
I don't think we are doing particular badly right now, but I am probably not the right one to judge that. Still, we have a plethora of communications channels - lists, fora, discord, irc, usenet, reddit, various IM services. They are different and attract different audiences. I don't think making any of them more open or more accomodating will change that. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org