* Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de> [09-11-12 12:40]:
On 2012-09-11T11:48:39, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote: ... I really like Tumbleweed. But it is not a rolling release; it's more of a selective backport. (Which I appreciate, honestly! It's just not what's being suggested.)
well, that is *your* definition, not mine.
This morning, zypper dup greeted me with
2172 packages to upgrade, 315 to downgrade, 660 new, 37 to reinstall, 300 to remove, 383 to change vendor, 14 to change arch. Overall download size: 2.43 GiB.
apparently you do not do "zypper dup" very often.....
A rolling release would have fed these into the repository over the course of the last 8 months or so when they were ready and tested in smaller increments/bundles, not as one huge jump.
which it did. I only get *many* package updates when something like kde updates to new version as it did today: ////// 155 packages to upgrade, 5 to change vendor. Overall download size: 531.9 MiB. After the operation, additional 1.9 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/?] (y): ////// Which is more than the *actual* change to 12.2 from 12.1.
You know, much like "We're not going to do the 1.0/1.2/1.4/2.0/2.2/2.4/2.6 thing any more", because such major releases were not considered appropriate for todays world? ;-)
(Incidentally, the downgrades are those where Tumbleweed/12.1 already had the same version but a higher build number. That's also not supposed to happen in a rolling release ;-) And some packages, like vim, actually did experience a minor version downgrade.)
somehow you missed the kernel downgrade, but you have your own definitions. Tumbleweed works well for me! Tks Greg KH -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org