Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
On 05/11/2015 01:53 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Stephan Kulow wrote:
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On 11.05.2015 13:18, Per Jessen wrote:
Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 07.05.2015 10:23, Richard Brown wrote:
but when we look around and call for volunteers to actually help, like we did for the 13.2 release process, or oSC 15, we're very lucky if we get anyone helping at all
That's the point I was trying to inspire a discussion about. I think we need to think very hard and with a very open mind about what this means.
What are the reasons that people don't answer our calls for help?
I think the calls for help are too broad or too loose for people to feel attracted/inclined. Just a hunch. Personally, I see no problem in dedicating a few hours a week to the "13.x release process", but I need a todo-list from which I can pick the top item and then work it for e.g. an hour or so.
Like https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-13-2-release ?
There isn't much listed at the moment, when I log in I get a list of four tickets opened by myself. I clicked a few links and got a list of issues (all resolved/closed) - looks like that sort of tool, yes.
That's what I would expect from the list of tasks to do for the 13.2 release 6 months AFTER the release is done.
Sure, me too.
There were plenty of open tasks BEFORE the release date. Many of them simply were closed because nobody stepped in and many of them were finally done by the same 3 guys.
It was very poorly advertised, IMHO. Stephan mentioned earlier:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2014-09/msg00035.html
I can't help wondering if it was really a good idea to put the call for help and the url in "Minutes from Today's Project Meeting"? I _do_ read those minutes occasionally, but it's exactly a must-read for me. Later in 2014 https://progress.opensuse.org/ was mentioned on opensuse-factory and somebody commented: "I agree that it is not much visible. E.g. in participate and join community on http://www.opensuse.org/en/ it is not mention at all." http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2014-11/msg00071.html Anyway, if https://progress.opensuse.org/ (what else is it called?) is the place to coordinate the-work-that-needs-doing, I'm all for it. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (25.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org