2013/12/2 Manu Gupta <manugupt1@gmail.com>:
Hey Robert
If there is anything with respect to getting contributors constantly in even for a part of year, I would love to hear your plans, even if you dont have the time, I am sure it is worth listening and someone might just borrow it from you :)
I am interested to know more about it.
Cheers Manu On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Robert Schweikert <rjschwei@suse.com> wrote:
On 11/29/2013 07:13 AM, Klaas Freitag wrote:
Hi,
since it is right now possible to take a breath between the waves of planning I like to share a thought.
In the last mails we read a couple of good ideas especially around the distro which are worth to think about and act upon. We also seem to widely agree that a bit more "innovation" would be cool.
Topic examples: - Gaming on openSUSE - Clouding with openSUSE - Free Communication, as in "No, thanks, I don't use M$ Skype, but connect my using XYZ on openSUSE". - Documentation ideas - more
All of these ideas would now require more investigation and _work_ to get it into Factory etc. pp. We need experts for each of the topics, which we seem to have, and people who want to learn, help and finally contribute.
I often think that the missing link seems to be that somebody says: "Hey, I wonna work on 'Gaming on openSUSE', this is the rough idea, how about you help me and we have fun on this?" and people who do not feel able to start such a "big" topic themselves but are interested can say: "Well, yes, sure, if there would be a task for me..." That is what worked in the past.
So I wonder if there is anything how we could help this process to work better in our community. These let's call them 'interest-groups' exist, sometimes as one-man shows, but are they visible enough? Can, for example, somebody who would like to spent a little bit of time helping somewhere, find the spots where help is needed? Has ever somebody called for help in openSUSE? How would one do that?
I am really interested on that, in fact as I thought it for a few days after reading the original mail something like that can be done easily just by organizing an 'interest-groups day' on IRC once every month(or something like that). With the right promotion (articles on news and some social media stuff) many people might be atrracted and it can even bring new contributors to the project. Getting the Project or even the Marketing IRC channel would not be a problem for 24 hours in order to do something like that. In fact something similar(to the structure not to the idea) has ben done before with the Marketing marathons. I think we have the people around in order to do something
Sorry for the flood, I just left what I mainly wanted to say out :D ... 2013/12/3 Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@gmail.com>: like that, we can just open a converstion on the project ML in order to find people to kind of 'lead' those teams so that when people show up and they want to work on Clouding for example to know that they should speak to Klaas. Just some of my ideas, let me know yours Kostas
I agree, I think you are poking the finger at a big problem area. New people that want to join our efforts are often overwhelmed and the "jump right in and do it" mentality and confidence that is required with this approach are generally missing.
I've toyed around with the idea of a structured mentorship program and I think it could work. But it requires time and effort for a prime mover and I do not have that time. Neither have I been able to think of good ways to share the load in the initial stages. I believe that once created the program would more or less self sustain.
I actually proposed a (partly) structured mentorship program a few years ago to the board but back then I just got an answer of the type "it is impossible for that to work in openSUSE" or something like that. Back then I did not insisted as much as I could because my top priority was the ambassador program. Actually we made a bof in oSC11 with Bruno now that I remember. Anyway if you are interested in a mentoring program maybe we could work together on something. I think I have a google doc somewhere around, if not I can easily write it again. By working together I am talking about all 4 of us +anyone else interesting in something like that. Have fun Kostas
Later, Robert
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