On 04/27/2012 06:47 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On 04/27/2012 12:37 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On 04/27/2012 10:33 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Hey all!
As SUSE is gearing up for SLE 12, SUSE is doing more in openSUSE. Features like systemd and grub2 are examples and more will follow.
I thought it worked the other way around:
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2011-11/msg01359.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2012-03/msg00353.html
You seem to misunderstand this, let me blog about this another time in more detail.
openSUSE is the upstream of SLES, so SLES work will be done in openSUSE.
I clearly have misunderstood something, yes. If openSUSE is upstream of SLES, then surely openSUSE is where development happens and hence openSUSE _is_ the testing ground?
do you consider gnome.org development the testing ground for openSUSE? Or the upstream Linux kernel the testing ground for openSUSE?
There is an important difference. Upstream implies that it's a project on its own, it could reject work, demand additional testing etc....
I am not disagreeing with you, but the argument of "rejecting" is theoretical. For most packages maintained in SLE a SUSE developer also maintains the same package in openSUSE, or is at least in the maintainer group. Thus, you are implying someone would reject their own work. That appears unlikely. That said, the whole thing is rather silly and makes me wonder why this was posted to begin with. (Disclaimer I have not read the wiki page yet.) We (SUSE employees that contribute to openSUSE) have collectively, many times, pointed out that our status is not, and should not, be any different from community members that do not work for SUSE. If we want this to be true we have to stop thinking of ourselves as "special". Why would we announce, that a group of community members, that happen to work for SUSE, will be entering a time of increased contribution to the openSUSE project? If another group of people that know each other would send an announcement saying, in the next 6 month we are going to contribute more. Then everyone would say "great, thanks, but why are you making an announcement? What makes you special?" Yes, as a group, SUSE employees probably still represent a large percentage of people that contribute to stuff in OBS and that ultimately ends up in the distribution. However, that should not make this group special or should not require a special announcement when the group collectively starts to contribute more to the project for a given period of time. Or are you going to make an announcement saying "The Freight Train has passed and all SUSE worker bees are once again consumed by working on SLE"? Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org