On Monday 26 July 2010 15:00:55 Pavol Rusnak wrote:
* Provide home for overall community and specific openSUSE teams, e.g. bug tracker, wiki, mailing lists, collaboration tools
It was a lot of words about distribution as software platform, but only above sentence about infrastructure that is base for all other activities. The base you build upon sets limits what you can and can not do. Discussing what we want has touch with reality only if we know what we have now. We get software from upstream, integrate it in distribution and publish results. Problem are many places in a workflow that require manual intervention on, essentially, communication tasks: - from communication channels to bug reporting, or feature, facility - from local bug reporting to upstream and vice verse - from one part of communication infrastructure to the other - from bugzilla to documentation - from documentation to various forms of document presentation and so on. The problem is software that is not designed to work as one system forcing us to: - Move and reformat whole messages by hand. - Search for information in various places. - Duplicate efforts because it is often faster to slap some info to user asking for it, then to find already written. The basic reason is that not many have understanding of the whole process, those that have are not connected to other and sharing knowledge is more a wish then reality. For instance, do we have any flow diagram that presents path software takes from origin to user and how user feedback flows in the other direction? No that I know. How we can create plans about system that we don't know exactly how it works and what we have to do to improve it? Having list of problems is not enough if we don't know how solutions will interact with system. I guess that recent problems with a wiki are good illustration how otherwise good plans can turn ugly if applied isolated from the rest of the workflow. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org