On 12/04/2013 10:22 AM, Joerg Stephan wrote:
Am 04.12.2013 16:14, schrieb Richard Brown:
'steering' and 'doing' are 2 very different things
The specific examples you replied to were 'integration work' currently done by Stephan, and 'release work' currently done by the openSUSE Team
I would categorise both of those as 'doing', and so not the sort of thing which would make sense for a 'steering' committee, which in my mind would be only interested in 'direction' and making decisions for others to implement.
True, BUT if your conclusion is that we just add some guys who just "doing" this and "doing" that and singing and dancing the whole day, than i would say we need a committee first. Thats we are talking about for days now, we need to place structures which can respond to the current problems.
Not necessarily, even if we had a "technical steering committee" and I am still not convinced that is necessary, but that's a different discussion, the steering committee could not make people appear out of thin air that are capable and willing to do the work that is expected to be vacated. The problem for the release and the "new factory" model are the same. Who is willing, able, and interested to do the work? Who has the time? These questions are the same whether one manages the release branch/process.... or whether we need people that manage the plethora of staging trees that is potentially coming our way in the "new Factory" model. So far we are pushing the problem around to different corners of the problem space but not true solution has emerged. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead Public Cloud Architect rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org