I think the Guiding Principles is lacking because it does not reference the whole of the OpenSUSE community, specifically, the various forums that serve it. Here's what the Guiding Principles WIKI pages currently says: "Communication Infrastructure Working on free software is based on effective communication on different levels. This is actively facilitated with platforms driven by the project such as the Wiki, mailinglists, IRC or Bugzilla." -- "Guiding Princples" document on the wiki, 1 PM CDT, 2007-05-25 http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de has 29,541 members as of today, http://www.suseforums.net has 19,493, and http://www.opensuse.us has 2852. That's not even mentioning the non-English speaking forums. While there is some account overlap there (I have an account on all three), I think that leaving the forums out of this cuts out a chunk of users who don't follow the OpenSUSE mailing lists or IRC. I'd like to see the following changes: 1. Refer to the forums in the Communication Infrastructure section. 2. Add the various forums in the "Appendix" section as part of the "discussed in the public community" line. Someone should post the resulting draft in each OpenSUSE forum for forum-member feedback. I would be happy to do this for SUSE Forums.net, SUSE Linux Support.de, and OpenSUSE.us. Someone else would need to tackle the non-English forums. 3. Going along with #2, once the forum members have responded, collect the data and return it to the ML, IRC, or wherever it needs to go. As long as I'm told what to do with the data, I'd also be willing to handle this for the aforementioned 3 English forums. ~~ Andrew D., aka andrewd18 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org