JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> writes:
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 23:08 -0600, Bryen wrote:
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 19:41 +0000, JP Rosevear wrote:
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 18:49 +0100, Michael Loeffler wrote:
Discussion of the hard ones: Does upstream contributino qualifies to become a member? For openSUSE related stuff like infrastructure (eg. OBS) yes, for software (KDE, Mono) no. But we shoudn't be "Heiliger als der Papst" (more catholic than the pope).
To clarify - this means the current opinion is that upstream project developers who are only users of openSUSE wouldn't qualify?
-JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> Novell, Inc.
The question came up more for those of us who are new on the board and grasping an understanding of how membership applications were approved in the past. It was not a declaration of a hard and fast rule that applies to any Novell employee.
What we were asking was whether or not a blanket rule should be applied where if you're a Novell employee, do you automatically get approval if you apply? Although we're still sifting through the backlog of applications, we have found that generally the Novell applicants have met the test for approval, as any other applicant. The requirements for anyone, Novell employee or not, is that there has to be some meaningful contribution to the project. Some examples include:
- Filing bug reports - Participating on the mailing lists - Contributing to the wiki - Providing online support (e.g., IRC support channels) - Advocacy/evangelism/projects that promote the use of openSUSE - Coding/Packaging/etc.
The above list of examples is definitely not exhaustive and we look at each applicant individually. (Hence why it takes so much time to process memberships.) We believe that providing such a litmus test adds real value to the prestige of becoming a member of the openSUSE Project.
What I'm saying is the a significant upstream contributor is really an openSUSE contributor no matter who they are, we need their code, so if someone like that applies (and does not really contribute to openSUSE directly in the above areas), I think they should still be considered for membership. Building a better upstream relationship is a good thing.
IMHO if that upstream contributor is fixing bugs that are filed against the openSUSE distribution or taking care of building the upstream package in the build service, I voted for him as member. But if you don't see any openSUSE specific action at all by him - no bug reports against openSUSE, no mails on the mailing lists etc - , I'm in favor of rejection. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126