On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 14:57 +0100, nordi wrote:
Eric Springer wrote:
What we need, is to put a lot more effort into the user-friendliness of factory. It should be easier to install, easier to upgrade to. Easier to report bugs. It shouldn't be in inconsistent states so often and we should be trying to keep it as stable as possible.
Amen!
When I read the factory list, I sometimes have the impression that the devs dump everything into factory as soon as it barely compiles. This may be nice for the devs, because they do need a place to dump their code, but it is absolutely horrible for testers. Which is also the reason why I have not yet tested factory a single time.
Developers do not submit broken code on purpose. What needs to be taken into account is that there's some 3800 packages in Factory that all have to work together. The only way to "ensure" that it's not broken, is to submit one package, fully test everything, then sync it out to mirrors. Submit the next package, full testing, sync etc. It's just not feasible. When alpha/beta etc are cut for testing, there is some QA before they get released, but again, it's not possible to test everything. The proper way to test Factory is to have a virtual machine and/or a spare machine. Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org