Hello openSUSE! My two cents. Marketing channel was never as busy as nowadays and I'm super excited to see it. We have people coming with ideas, people defineding current brands and suggesting new marketing strategies. In general more active people on the topic, who have proven that they can actually deliver content (e.g. a logo submission). Sometimes you need to announce a "controversial" article/post "e.g. let's kill the service, nobody is caring about it" and then suddenly somebody starts caring. To me it seems to be quite a similar case. A bit more co-ordination on the marketing side and we're set to win. ps. I'm a bit unhappy about comms with the SUSE branding team, which is somehow related but a bit of a different story. On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:58 AM ddemaio openSUSE <ddemaio@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 2023-12-09 09:52, Richard Brown wrote:
On 2023-12-08 10:18, Douglas DeMaio wrote:
Have a look at every single reddit, telegram, twitter, or matrix discussion on the topic and you will find words from others than myself also either echoing similar concerns or just outright disliking the idea of changing the logo. I find this latest email from you to be obscenely patronising and unbecoming of an openSUSE Board member who is meant to represent the wishes of the Project as a whole, and especially it's voting membership.
Please explain to me the difference between acting as a board member vs acting as a community member? I certainly don't speak on behalf of the board with this.
If the suggestion is that my position within the project infringes too much or carries too much influence on this decision, let the marketing team from Telegram drive it. I'll certainly take a backseat to the process and discussion going forward.
And with the trademark aspects, that statement is there for a reason. The phrase "If you don't know, you better ask somebody" isn't just military jargon. Silence on the trademark for the month between the submissions and time to vote isn't being railroaded in my opinion; there was certainly a sufficient amount of time.
It took several years from initiating discussions on trademarking Kubic before it progressed. As I have repeatedly pointed out on several other venues, every single change, alteration, or addition to the openSUSE trademark has also been a process lasting several years. If you think a month is a good time for a topic of this complexity, then frankly, I think you're unfit to be driving this matter, and I respectfully request that Gerald take the lead, giving his professional responsibility as Chairperson.
Point taken. I don't shy away from criticism and this conversation goes as far back as 2019? What do others think?
v/r Doug
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