On 4/12/24 10:43 AM, Attila Pinter wrote:
On Thursday, April 11th, 2024 at 6:41 PM, Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@googlemail.com> wrote:
Am 11.04.24 um 10:49 schrieb Richard Brown:
You're demonstrating a tendency to trust what you witness for a limited period of time over the views of multiple trusted community members who have witnessed this problem for a much longer period of time.
These multiple trusted community members who volunteer to deal with this stuff every day, so the Board don't have to.
That's all fine and good. But even if we all trust the moderators doing a fine job, I still feel like it is a good idea to have a second, separate entity take a look at the issue.
You're correct, but I believe that you're not familiar with the processes of the moderation team. When bans happen it gets announced on a shared channel (at the time when I was part we had 20 members), decisions are always up for debate. Same channel serves as a decision making or supporting place in case things are difficult. On top of that if anybody feels like that a ban is not justified they're always explained that A.) they can reach out to the board for further investigation, B.) open a ticket on code-o-o with the details, or C.) (and this happened on multiple occasions) reach out to other moderators to look into the matter.
This process worked really well in the past, and would continue to work I believe. With that said there is always place for improvements, new mods to take part as well, new ideas for better processes. Hope this helps a bit. The mods-team is not exactly the illuminati :)
To the best of my knowledge IRC mods such as myself were never involved in any part of the setup of this group and have not been invited to join it. This is likely something worth fixing if we'd like more unified moderation across IRC as well. I believe I mentioned this when I first saw such a group being discussed but I never heard anything back. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B