On 28 November 2013 13:57, Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de> wrote:
On 28/11/13 14:01, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
how is red hat living?
Good. And SUSE is living good as well. These companies don't depend on what kids think nowadays that is cool, but on what people need to get work done ;-)
good news. but is this more than server market? is desktop still important enough as linux client? My personal opinion - companies don't care about Linux desktop, money are in server, cloud... But where SUSE/RedHat is going is not necessarily the same direction as openSUSE, but we can share part of the way ;-)
Agreed. But there is a big and growing gap of missed opportunity between what openSUSE does and the way SLES is positioned and is used. Things that would make openSUSE more relevant to users and a more attractive investment target for SUSE.
I agree here with almost all your suggestions, with one caveat. Do not try and position openSUSE as a demo platform for ISVs. Don't get me wrong, I strongly believe we need to get more of the open source based ISVs to support openSUSE, but we should not switch the focus of the distro to support that goal. Having openSUSE as the premier platform for software development should be the goal.
* A way to make the Cloud hype-bandwagon useful to openSUSE. This might just be a low-hanging fruit YaST module to setup an OwnCloud server, a medium effort sponsoring a KDE dev and a GNOME dev for a few months to add cloudy storage for app settings and data to the desktops, or a full on effort to make openSUSE on SUSE Cloud and SUSE Cloud on openSUSE possible, visible and accessible.
* Huge gulf between the "DevOps" trend of setting up and maintaining servers and productive systems and openSUSE using the YaST installer and zypper. What if we used these to automate the boring dance of a new installation, of backing up customised settings and installed applications from an old install and putting them back in the right place on the newly installed system? What about marrying YaST and Vagrant to set up server VMs? That's an interesting task for many of the openSUSE power user base.
A good example would be to have Spacewalk packaged and available for openSUSE, it is after all the upstream project for SUSE Manager. SUSE can get some useful feedback on core functions from the community, and then further tailor the value add component on top.
* A reason for people to use little (and not so little) ARM boards running openSUSE. Right now we have the ARM builds, but how many of us have tried them on our Raspberry Pi? How do we make openSUSE more attractive than Raspbian?
Part of the issue with this is that there are not enough people contributing to the ARM port, I can count on one hand those that contribute here. I would like to see openSUSE as the go to platform for vendors when they release their SDKs rather than Ubuntu.
If you wonder why I mention these things, look at the official SUSE.com press release about openSUSE 13.1. The things that matter to SUSE about openSUSE are right there in the headline:
https://www.suse.com/company/press/2013/11/newest-opensuse-features-stabilit...
A very good point.
If we can find ways to make these things useful to the general openSUSE user too, we can turn this gap into an advantage for the project and the distro.
WIll
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