On 5/29/23 07:09, Wouter Onebekend wrote:
Hello,
Hi, Just clearing up some specifics.
2) Enforcement is intransparent and arbitrary. There's a moderation team with "processes in place". Processes that are not even public! Determining and sanctioning violations is at the sole discretion of the executive (moderation team and openSUSE board - I'm not sure if these two are even separate/overlap free). 3) There is no appeal to an independent authority. The executive is judge, jury, executioner and authority for appeals.
Currently as far as i'm aware none of the email moderators are on the board, although there are former board members within that group, so if you believe an email is wrongly rejected you can raise it with the board who is a separate entity of 6 people. The Board itself is elected by the members with half the positions being up for election each year and a maximum consecutive term of 4 years. If the community really feels the need to replace the board there is also means to do so. This is all documented at [1]. I agree that mailing list moderation is not well documented, this is partly because its not something we generally do especially on a large scale. Generally the lists are unmoderated and if there is an issue someone simply raises a complaint to the board. The board does sometimes choose to place certain members under moderation for a period if there has been complaints about their behavior at which time the moderation team will just review those posts. With the number of complaints that have been raised by a number of people about a significant number of people in the past week, combined with the fact the original thread was off topic for the factory list, we decided the simplest solution for now was to put the whole list under moderation and once the board has worked through the complaints and decided which individuals should be placed under moderation for a period of time or just warned about there behavior the lists will go back to an "unmoderated" state other then for the specific members that the board may or may not decide to place under moderation. Finally thank you for your well written email, while personally I may not agree with parts of it as others in the community also may not I feel like it lays out your concerns well and maybe there are some places we can improve the current code of conduct and our processes 1. https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election_rules -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B